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Old 01-20-2024, 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DrSmacFum
I think it would be moreso that they dont see the appeal being successful, than wanting to bail. All guesses of ofcourse, and its hard to speculate on intent based off 1 email.
Is the lack of enthusiasm because they don't think it will be successful? Is it because they want to create pressure for NK to agree to a recut of the share purchase price in light of the deterioration in NKs business value? Is it because they no longer want the merger? Is it because analysts don't want JB to continue the merger? Do they want to run out the clock on the July 24 outside date? Do they want to renegotiate the price of the deal and then extend the outside date?

You are correct, the "intent" or "tone" of a single email might not tell us anything, or maybe tells us everything. Literally no way to know yet.
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Old 01-20-2024, 05:25 AM
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I suspect the basis of the appeal will be JB arguing the judge errored by taking into consideration the routes instead of taking into consideration the overall ticket pricing of having a big 5 instead of a big 4.
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Old 01-20-2024, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
a lot actually do get overturned but unfortunately I don’t think this will. I think the only indication JB wants it to is jf they apply for an expedited trial, or recut the deal for less money. All that being said, it’s pretty frustrating if JB wants to bail. They should have F’d off to begin with and let us merge with F9
Rather take my chances with this incompetent management than work for anything touched by the Lorenzo reincarnation
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Old 01-20-2024, 05:49 AM
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Rather take my chances with this incompetent management than work for anything touched by the Lorenzo reincarnation
the difference is there seems to be a real potential for Ch 7 if we stay independent, F9/NK would be in the category of too big too fail. That’s all I’m sayin
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Old 01-20-2024, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
the difference is there seems to be a real potential for Ch 7 if we stay independent, F9/NK would be in the category of too big too fail. That’s all I’m sayin
Too big to fail? Or too important to fail because the judge deemed ULCCs to be protected classes of airlines?

It’s one thing for a big airline like a legacy to disappear overnight causing intrastate commerce to be affected, but $50 tickets to Florida aren’t in the same category.

for the record, I think JB could disappear overnight with barely a blip too. I think the judge has inappropriately deemed ULCCs to be sacrosanct in the industry.
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Old 01-20-2024, 06:11 AM
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F9/JB/NK merger??
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Old 01-20-2024, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
Too big to fail? Or too important to fail because the judge deemed ULCCs to be protected classes of airlines?

It’s one thing for a big airline like a legacy to disappear overnight causing intrastate commerce to be affected, but $50 tickets to Florida aren’t in the same category.

for the record, I think JB could disappear overnight with barely a blip too. I think the judge has inappropriately deemed ULCCs to be sacrosanct in the industry.
Too Important I guess is what I meant. I mean if little Spirit is too important to go away with a merger, would be quite Ironic for it to go away because of a Judge who likes to quite Les Mis..... and wants to protect college kids traveling to Cancun
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Old 01-20-2024, 07:18 AM
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Would be interesting to see if the Supreme Court would even agree to hear the case.
On what grounds would they hear it? "We didn't like the outcome" is not going to cut it.
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Old 01-20-2024, 07:29 AM
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Our internal email gave the distinct impression of a reluctant appeal. I truly feel for the Spirit group. They're getting F'd over in all this. They most likely would have been fine with a Frontier merger. And now we have to wait for this damn appeal process to play out before we can open up Section 6....while we continue to operate on a 2018 contract. Fun times.
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Old 01-20-2024, 07:48 AM
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Our internal email gave the distinct impression of a reluctant appeal. I truly feel for the Spirit group. They're getting F'd over in all this. They most likely would have been fine with a Frontier merger. And now we have to wait for this damn appeal process to play out before we can open up Section 6....while we continue to operate on a 2018 contract. Fun times.
Pretty sure one of the union emails discussed that Feb 1 negotiations begin in the event our airlines are not combining by that date.
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