In the courtroom.
01-08-2024, 12:00 PM
#671
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Posts: 770
You guys have much better reserve grid rules, and your beloved DTZ, and as another poster pointed out, your own claim to be able to significantly out-earn us with your "work rules". Whether that is true or not, I see no reason to give you our rates, which would give you guys a better overall CBA than us, per your own pilots previous posts. All while we get nothing tangible for the effort, and are stuck with our current non-functional reserve grids.
We all have much to gain and much to correct with this JCBA. We will all wait and enjoy the spoils at that same time.
Vote how you want, campaign for whatever means the most to you, and if it comes to pass that there is a TPA on the table that includes pay parity in the interim to a new contract that you feel so maligns your best interests that you decide to vote against it, then vote your conscience.
But never for one moment think that anything NK gains in this process is the result of your or any other B6 pilot's largesse.
01-08-2024, 12:10 PM
#672
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,920
Make no mistake, YOU aren't "giving" me anything.
Vote how you want, campaign for whatever means the most to you, and if it comes to pass that there is a TPA on the table that includes pay parity in the interim to a new contract that you feel so maligns your best interests that you decide to vote against it, then vote your conscience.
But never for one moment think that anything NK gains in this process is the result of your or any other B6 pilot's largesse.
Vote how you want, campaign for whatever means the most to you, and if it comes to pass that there is a TPA on the table that includes pay parity in the interim to a new contract that you feel so maligns your best interests that you decide to vote against it, then vote your conscience.
But never for one moment think that anything NK gains in this process is the result of your or any other B6 pilot's largesse.
I don't actually hold ill will towards NK pilots, I really don't. But don't ask us to push our management to give you OUR rates on top of the work rules you guys claim are so superior to ours prior to us all benefiting from a JCBA.
01-08-2024, 12:52 PM
#673
Line Holder
Joined APC: Feb 2019
Posts: 81
Would you idiots stop arguing about stupid shˇt you have zero control over? Tell the union nerds what you want and vote as you see fit. Stop worrying so god damn much. Go outside, have a beer, appreciate life and the fact that you weren't DHing in a window seat on AS.
01-08-2024, 01:00 PM
#674
RSV4LIFE
Joined APC: Oct 2023
Posts: 82
Robin Hayes counts on emotional pilots like you Blue. That's why he TA'd those pay rates for B6 within days of the NK TA. You think all that was a coincidence? Do you think two pilot groups working for the same company on different pay scales will help the B6 pilots achieve industry leading rates or will it put them in a more compromised position? I can assure you Robin knows the answer to that question and that's why he mettled in the NK TA via the merger agreement.
01-08-2024, 01:04 PM
#675
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 549
Robin Hayes counts on emotional pilots like you Blue. That's why he TA'd those pay rates for B6 within days of the NK TA. You think all that was a coincidence? Do you think two pilot groups working for the same company on different pay scales will help the B6 pilots achieve industry leading rates or will it put them in a more compromised position? I can assure you Robin knows the answer to that question and that's why he mettled in the NK TA via the merger agreement.
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01-08-2024, 01:05 PM
#676
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,920
Oh well, let's just celebrate Joanna as the new CEO.
01-08-2024, 01:08 PM
#677
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,920
Robin Hayes counts on emotional pilots like you Blue. That's why he TA'd those pay rates for B6 within days of the NK TA. You think all that was a coincidence? Do you think two pilot groups working for the same company on different pay scales will help the B6 pilots achieve industry leading rates or will it put them in a more compromised position? I can assure you Robin knows the answer to that question and that's why he mettled in the NK TA via the merger agreement.
Put me down as a no.
Sorry, but any notion that the starting point for JCBA negotiations is anything less than the Aug 24 JetBlue rates is farcical. The NK rates will be absolutely irrelevant to the JCBA negotiations.
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