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12-08-2023, 03:53 AM
#431
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I don't think Ch 11's the master plan, but I can almost guarantee you that Ch 11's a plan should this merger not work out perfectly.
I suspect that the c-suite sees a likelihood of Ch 11 with or without a merger. They likely prefer to enter Ch 11 as a larger airline rather than a smaller one.
And it wouldn't be immediate; the combined company would be able to stay afloat for at least a couple of years.
I suspect that the c-suite sees a likelihood of Ch 11 with or without a merger. They likely prefer to enter Ch 11 as a larger airline rather than a smaller one.
And it wouldn't be immediate; the combined company would be able to stay afloat for at least a couple of years.
12-08-2023, 03:56 AM
#432
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I don't think Ch 11's the master plan, but I can almost guarantee you that Ch 11's a plan should this merger not work out perfectly.
I suspect that the c-suite sees a likelihood of Ch 11 with or without a merger. They likely prefer to enter Ch 11 as a larger airline rather than a smaller one.
And it wouldn't be immediate; the combined company would be able to stay afloat for at least a couple of years.
I suspect that the c-suite sees a likelihood of Ch 11 with or without a merger. They likely prefer to enter Ch 11 as a larger airline rather than a smaller one.
And it wouldn't be immediate; the combined company would be able to stay afloat for at least a couple of years.
do you feel any differently about the merger going through now that you had time to process it more?
I know you talked with some other attorneys right after the closing arguments. But you’ve got to admit the judge even said, he find it “difficult” to completely blocked merger.
12-08-2023, 04:06 AM
#433
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andy,
do you feel any differently about the merger going through now that you had time to process it more?
I know you talked with some other attorneys right after the closing arguments. But you’ve got to admit the judge even said, he find it “difficult” to completely blocked merger.
do you feel any differently about the merger going through now that you had time to process it more?
I know you talked with some other attorneys right after the closing arguments. But you’ve got to admit the judge even said, he find it “difficult” to completely blocked merger.
I plan on buying a small position in SAVE if the price falls a bit. The stock is not dropping, unlike what I anticipated. I don't expect a ruling until January.
My previous position was extremely overweight and I deferred to the attorneys I spoke to on the legal aspects of the case, but I don't know what their biases are, nor do I know who they work for.
Plus I thought closing arguments waaay favored DOJ.
Can you find any quotes where people suggest Alaska would file Ch 11? I thought Alaska was throwing money away to preserve their markets, not that it pushed them toward Ch 11.
12-08-2023, 05:06 AM
#434
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Yes, I think it's a bit better than a coin flip on going through.
I plan on buying a small position in SAVE if the price falls a bit. The stock is not dropping, unlike what I anticipated. I don't expect a ruling until January.
My previous position was extremely overweight and I deferred to the attorneys I spoke to on the legal aspects of the case, but I don't know what their biases are, nor do I know who they work for.
Plus I thought closing arguments waaay favored DOJ.
Can you find any quotes where people suggest Alaska would file Ch 11? I thought Alaska was throwing money away to preserve their markets, not that it pushed them toward Ch 11.
I plan on buying a small position in SAVE if the price falls a bit. The stock is not dropping, unlike what I anticipated. I don't expect a ruling until January.
My previous position was extremely overweight and I deferred to the attorneys I spoke to on the legal aspects of the case, but I don't know what their biases are, nor do I know who they work for.
Plus I thought closing arguments waaay favored DOJ.
Can you find any quotes where people suggest Alaska would file Ch 11? I thought Alaska was throwing money away to preserve their markets, not that it pushed them toward Ch 11.
I must be missing something.
12-08-2023, 05:29 AM
#435
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Can you quote where people that actually know what they are talking about (not people on APC) said JB would file for ch11 right after the merger?
12-08-2023, 08:34 AM
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I don't watch enough Judge Judy/ C SPAN 2 so forgive my ignornace, but regardless of how this DOJ trial goes, doesn't the DOT have the final say? If true, I can see the DOT overruling the verdict because it's "the right thing to do" ( denying the merger).
12-08-2023, 08:43 AM
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And with a conservative Supreme Court taking aim at the Chevron Deference doctrine already, DOT woukd be well advised to not go beyond a strict interpretation of their enabling legislation which does not include trying to stop acquisitions and mergers.
12-08-2023, 08:49 AM
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No they don't have the final say.
And with a conservative Supreme Court taking aim at the Chevron Deference doctrine already, DOT woukd be well advised to not go beyond a strict interpretation of their enabling legislation which does not include trying to stop acquisitions and mergers.
And with a conservative Supreme Court taking aim at the Chevron Deference doctrine already, DOT woukd be well advised to not go beyond a strict interpretation of their enabling legislation which does not include trying to stop acquisitions and mergers.
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