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Old 12-06-2023, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
Yeah it would take years.
Idk throwing away 400 million (not including lawyers) for nothing after losing almost as much in fiscal '22 seems like a tough pill to swallow.
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Old 12-06-2023, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Idk throwing away 400 million (not including lawyers) for nothing after losing almost as much in fiscal '22 seems like a tough pill to swallow.
$400m is nothing compared to $5+bn, most of which will be financed at 10%. Worrying about the $400m loss walking away but disregarding the hundreds of millions spirit and jetblue are losing quarterly, plus the extreme overpayment to buy/integrate, with high financing costs, is textbook sunk cost fallacy https://thedecisionlab.com/biases/the-sunk-cost-fallacy
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Old 12-06-2023, 03:06 PM
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$400m is nothing compared to $5+bn, most of which will be financed at 10%. Worrying about the $400m loss walking away but disregarding the hundreds of millions spirit and jetblue are losing quarterly, plus the extreme overpayment to buy/integrate, with high financing costs, is textbook sunk cost fallacy https://thedecisionlab.com/biases/the-sunk-cost-fallacy
Only partially correct. If they don't walk away SIMPLY because of the money they've spent thus far, sunk-cost fallacy. But there was a strong underlying reason they pursued NK, which is still the case. So if they were to continue it would not really be a sunk-cost situation.

Because of the time-sensitive nature of a merger transaction, there may be an expedited track for an appeal.

Way above my pay grade, but wouldn't be surprised to see it pursued if it's a loss.
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Old 12-06-2023, 09:01 PM
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Old 12-06-2023, 09:06 PM
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I sympathize with andy's decision to sell this overweight position, gotta think of the family unless your are totally one your own
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Old 12-06-2023, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Idk throwing away 400 million (not including lawyers) for nothing after losing almost as much in fiscal '22 seems like a tough pill to swallow.






The merger will be approved

couple gates couple routes to go to allegiant and frontier and bingo the judge will say good to go
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Old 12-07-2023, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by I was inverted
$400m is nothing compared to $5+bn, most of which will be financed at 10%. Worrying about the $400m loss walking away but disregarding the hundreds of millions spirit and jetblue are losing quarterly, plus the extreme overpayment to buy/integrate, with high financing costs, is textbook sunk cost fallacy https://thedecisionlab.com/biases/the-sunk-cost-fallacy
Here’s to hoping this insanity doesn’t go through…I just don’t see 1-2 years of a cushy JCBA being worth the artificial Chapter 11 that will inevitably occur on the backside of it all.

I’m sure the execs will get great golden parachutes if they pull this off though

It’s times like these that really make me wish I had done a basic MBA at a crappy diploma mill like HBS back in the way back lol
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Old 12-07-2023, 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DontCallMeCindy
Here’s to hoping this insanity doesn’t go through…I just don’t see 1-2 years of a cushy JCBA being worth the artificial Chapter 11 that will inevitably occur on the backside of it all.

I’m sure the execs will get great golden parachutes if they pull this off though

It’s times like these that really make me wish I had done a basic MBA at a crappy diploma mill like HBS back in the way back lol
Oh that’s right, because if the merger doesn’t go through, JBLU will continue to grow, bank profits, and the pilot contract will continue to increase in the decade to come without any backsliding. Sure, I’m sure that’s going to happen if the merger fails. 🤔

Both airlines need this to happen, NK needs it more today, but JBLU will need it as well. Don’t need a MBA at a crappy diploma mill to see JBLU is being squeezed by legacy carriers as well and will continue to be squeezed
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Old 12-07-2023, 04:21 AM
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The information within the article are good, the headline is dramatized.
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Old 12-07-2023, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by DontCallMeCindy
Here’s to hoping this insanity doesn’t go through…I just don’t see 1-2 years of a cushy JCBA being worth the artificial Chapter 11 that will inevitably occur on the backside of it all.

I’m sure the execs will get great golden parachutes if they pull this off though

It’s times like these that really make me wish I had done a basic MBA at a crappy diploma mill like HBS back in the way back lol
Why would JB go bankrupt?
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