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Old 12-03-2023, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
This new airline will be JB’s next target.
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Old 12-03-2023, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by CatPilot1
This new airline will be JB’s next target.
I doubt that greatly, but would love to be proven wrong.
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Old 12-03-2023, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206

​​​I forsee jetblue salivating over LAX and SFO gate divestments.
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Old 12-03-2023, 11:15 AM
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Jesus, I've been saying for years JB and HA need to get together. JB wants west coast presence and widebodies. It would immedietely get us 330s, Pacific/Asia while launching our EU stuff out of JFK/BOS with the LRs.
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Old 12-03-2023, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by AYLflyer
Jesus, I've been saying for years JB and HA need to get together. JB wants west coast presence and widebodies. It would immedietely get us 330s, Pacific/Asia while launching our EU stuff out of JFK/BOS with the LRs.
Yeah give it 5-7yrs and we’ll be in bed with this HA/AS combo. The timing will be right for WBs and creating a true global carrier.
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Old 12-03-2023, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by AYLflyer
Jesus, I've been saying for years JB and HA need to get together. JB wants west coast presence and widebodies. It would immedietely get us 330s, Pacific/Asia while launching our EU stuff out of JFK/BOS with the LRs.
Instead, JB decided to buy a failing and crappy low-tier airline like spirit.
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Old 12-03-2023, 11:27 AM
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Instead, JB decided to buy a failing and crappy low-tier airline like spirit.

JB is just buying assets. They don’t care about anything except the airplanes and order book.
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Old 12-03-2023, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by BusBoe
Instead, JB decided to buy a failing and crappy low-tier airline like spirit.
https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/t...iable-airlines

Go look at some performance metrics and then come back and tell me which one is the "crappy low tier airline" lmao.
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Old 12-03-2023, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by BusBoe
Instead, JB decided to buy a failing and crappy low-tier airline like spirit.
Was just going to say the same thing. I’ve heard rumors Robin wanted to buy widebodies instead of Spirit, but the board (led by Baldanza) blocked it and drove us into the Spirit acquisition instead. In hindsight, with all the problems with the GTFs, the predictable collapse of demand for cheap tickets domestically (COVID money running out was written on the wall), and the shift of travel spend to premium overseas destinations…we should’ve converted XLR orders to 330s/350s, and grown organically from there.

The pilot supply issue would’ve resolved itself with a widebody order or the acquisition of a true global carrier like Hawaiian. Hawaiian would’ve been such a smarter move. Also no nightmarish difference in cabin product, which will take years to align/retrofit. Hawaiian cabins could roll for years as-is wo causing any major hiccups w/JB regulars walking on board and going “what the…?”

Oh well—guess we’ll at least be a super unstoppable force tapping those super lucrative markets like DTW, SDQ, MCO, Honduras, etc. lololol
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Old 12-03-2023, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DrSmacFum
wonder if this changes anything on our end long term wise. Might be time to sack up and really INVEST in the europe flying (bigger aircraft)
We don’t have the money for that—we spent it on Spirit
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