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Old 11-16-2023, 07:49 PM
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Will Rogers said, "Buy a stock and wait for it to go up. If it does not go up, you should not have bought it."
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Rumors starting to float that a settlement has been submitted to the Judge. I don't know the validity of the rumors, but the timing would make sense due to motion 167.

In plain speak, the DOJ may/might/probably submitted an agreement to the Judge to drop the lawsuit in exchange for some Jetblue divestitures of Spirit gates/slots.

Again, this is an unsubstantiated rumor.
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Originally Posted by Andy
Rumors starting to float that a settlement has been submitted to the Judge. I don't know the validity of the rumors, but the timing would make sense due to motion 167.

In plain speak, the DOJ may/might/probably submitted an agreement to the Judge to drop the lawsuit in exchange for some Jetblue divestitures of Spirit gates/slots.

Again, this is an unsubstantiated rumor.

what is motion 167
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Old 11-17-2023, 09:10 AM
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There's a whole lot of day traders out there that are treating this like a Gamestop type situation. They are pumping lots of money into SAVE stock hoping to in the very least pump it up, is what I'm seeing. So with that in mind, there's a lot of biases in the works on messaging from certain sources.

But I do hope it's true tbh, a settlement would be great. It's been sad to hear that the DOJ never actually negotiatged.. at all! What kind of nonsense is that. Just blanketly trying to stop viable companies from competing. Very uncapitalistic!
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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
what is motion 167
I am no longer spoon feeding you. I suggest google.
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Originally Posted by LoopsMcDoops
There's a whole lot of day traders out there that are treating this like a Gamestop type situation. They are pumping lots of money into SAVE stock hoping to in the very least pump it up, is what I'm seeing. So with that in mind, there's a lot of biases in the works on messaging from certain sources.

But I do hope it's true tbh, a settlement would be great. It's been sad to hear that the DOJ never actually negotiatged.. at all! What kind of nonsense is that. Just blanketly trying to stop viable companies from competing. Very uncapitalistic!
I sat in the courtroom a few days ago. I can tell you that the 'vibe' I got from the Judge is that he will dismiss this. He has also hinted at a settlement several times. In plainspeak, let the DOJ team that they were going to lose.

Given the drop in the stock at the start of the trial, I would say it is not behaving like a Gamestop type situation. What message board do you see these day traders?
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Originally Posted by Andy
I am no longer spoon feeding you. I suggest google.
What is a google?
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Old 11-17-2023, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
I sat in the courtroom a few days ago. I can tell you that the 'vibe' I got from the Judge is that he will dismiss this. He has also hinted at a settlement several times. In plainspeak, let the DOJ team that they were going to lose.

Given the drop in the stock at the start of the trial, I would say it is not behaving like a Gamestop type situation. What message board do you see these day traders?
We have a LOOONG ways til this is gamestop type of stuff, but i have seen a few posts on WSB now and then:

https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetb...sitionlawsuit/
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Originally Posted by Andy
I sat in the courtroom a few days ago. I can tell you that the 'vibe' I got from the Judge is that he will dismiss this. He has also hinted at a settlement several times. In plainspeak, let the DOJ team that they were going to lose.

Given the drop in the stock at the start of the trial, I would say it is not behaving like a Gamestop type situation. What message board do you see these day traders?
I hope your right. This lawsuit is a joke. Such a reach legally according to the lawyers I've referenced.

But, it's going through the system reguardless. I think it will go to a decision.
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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
what is motion 167
Short version; DOJ is using expert witnesses that are going to be giving conflicting testimony from what they said during the NEA trial and what they are going to say in this one. You can’t be a witness and say in one trial how JBLU is great in lowering fares against legacy carriers and then in another, say they will raise fares. A motion has been filed regarding this, and if it’s sustained, the DOJ is basically sunk
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