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Old 11-15-2023, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
But if the DOJ could win some small case like this one vs JB then they could set precedence for a future big tech/pharma type case
That makes no sense. This is an extraordinarily weak case to use to try to establish a precedent. When a Big Pharma company buys up the only generic competitor competing against their name brand drug for a third the price and then either ups the price of the generic to that of the brand name or just discontinues the generic production and/or marketing altogether, even a conservative judge is going to agree with them that a little intervention to support a competitive market is likely warranted.

That would provide a much better method of increasing anti monopoly precedent than this case. This is more akin to the EPA trying to redefine a seasonal occasional mud puddle as a navigable waterway. They are practically begging to be slapped down for over reaching.
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Old 11-15-2023, 12:36 PM
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I'll be there the week after Thanksgiving in person ... assuming DOJ doesn't settle in the meantime.
The DOJ does have an 'out' on this; they can claim they got the necessary divestitures to allow the merger to proceed. IF that happens, expect the stock to rip higher due to short covering. Same when the Judge issues his ruling.
Could (will it) it go above the ~$30 deal price for a short time due to short covers?
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Old 11-15-2023, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Could (will it) it go above the ~$30 deal price for a short time due to short covers?
I’m curious about this as well?
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Old 11-15-2023, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Could (will it) it go above the ~$30 deal price for a short time due to short covers?
Deal price is $33.50.
It is possible; I haven't looked at percentage of short interest here, although I'd think that the next few days will probably squeeze most of them.

Edit: 9.78% short interest at last report. https://fintel.io/ss/us/save
That's higher than normal. It will depend on how many stockholders decide to sell quickly after the lawsuit goes away.
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Old 11-15-2023, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy
Deal price is $33.50.
It is possible; I haven't looked at percentage of short interest here, although I'd think that the next few days will probably squeeze most of them.

Edit: 9.78% short interest at last report. https://fintel.io/ss/us/save
That's higher than normal. It will depend on how many stockholders decide to sell quickly after the lawsuit goes away.
Deal price is $33.50, but then you have to subtract the $2.50 prepayment (already payed) and subtract the $.10 monthly ticking fee. Will be ~$30 give or take when JB has to buy the shares.

I can't remember for sure if the ticking fee counts towards the share purchase. I think it does, but not sure. I'm sure the $2.50 does though. So best we can hope for is $31.00. But possibly less with the ticking fee subtracted.
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Old 11-15-2023, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Deal price is $33.50, but then you have to subtract the $2.50 prepayment (already payed) and subtract the $.10 monthly ticking fee. Will be ~$30 give or take when JB has to buy the shares.

I can't remember for sure if the ticking fee counts towards the share purchase. I think it does, but not sure. I'm sure the $2.50 does though. So best we can hope for is $31.00. But possibly less with the ticking fee subtracted.
Is that for shares purchased before a certain date?

Or would that apply to shares recently purchased as well?
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Old 11-15-2023, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SSlow
Is that for shares purchased before a certain date?

Or would that apply to shares recently purchased as well?
You would have had to own the shares much earlier to get the $2.50 prepayment.

So someone who bought recently will get ~$30.00-31.00. Depending on if the ticking fee is subtracted from the $31.00.
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Old 11-15-2023, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
You would have had to own the shares much earlier to get the $2.50 prepayment.

So someone who bought recently will get ~$30.00-31.00. Depending on if the ticking fee is subtracted from the $31.00.
You will receive $31.00 per share at the close of the deal. I believe the ticking fee is only deducted from the cancellation clause of $3.50 per share (approximately). Shareholders would get this if the deal does not go through. If you received the $2.50 prepayment and at least a $1.00 worth of the ticking fee then you would get nothing as a result of the $400 million break up fee. If you did not receive the prepayment then you would get some portion of the $3.50 - the ticking fee received.
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Old 11-15-2023, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordon Axel
You will receive $31.00 per share at the close of the deal. I believe the ticking fee is only deducted from the cancellation clause of $3.50 per share (approximately). Shareholders would get this if the deal does not go through. If you received the $2.50 prepayment and at least a $1.00 worth of the ticking fee then you would get nothing as a result of the $400 million break up fee. If you did not receive the prepayment then you would get some portion of the $3.50 - the ticking fee received.
$31.00, good to know.

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Old 11-15-2023, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
$31.00, good to know.

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Ditto, thanks to those that posted the payment details.
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