In the courtroom.
11-10-2023, 06:25 AM
#111
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I'd be worried if we lost Robin. Many don't like him, but can't explane why. Just the other day I heard one of our pilots say he'd rather have Neilman back at the helm. I argued if Neilman never left we wouldn't have Mint, we wouldn't be in Europe, and we be struggling with a similar model to Spirit.
JG can go by the wayside, I'm not impressed at all by her. Robin does a good job though IMO.
11-10-2023, 06:36 AM
#112
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Posts: 534
Exactly.
And for some that are new to the game, here is some sad truth for this industry; airlines have and will file bankruptcy. It’s the industry. And I’ll add, Chapter 11 is much better than continuing to **** through money to the point you close the doors.
NK probably files Ch11 first half of 2024 if this merger gets shot down. JBLU, who knows, maybe Robin gets shown the door and a new CEO has to make decisions if the merger fails.
But this ridiculous “the stock is at…” every day doesn’t matter. Come wake me when it’s a penny and it’s on the verge of being delisted.
The merger and the judge, that’s all that matters. I’m glad to see more JBLU guys for this merger as we are all realizing we need to grow to compete. This is the way
And for some that are new to the game, here is some sad truth for this industry; airlines have and will file bankruptcy. It’s the industry. And I’ll add, Chapter 11 is much better than continuing to **** through money to the point you close the doors.
NK probably files Ch11 first half of 2024 if this merger gets shot down. JBLU, who knows, maybe Robin gets shown the door and a new CEO has to make decisions if the merger fails.
But this ridiculous “the stock is at…” every day doesn’t matter. Come wake me when it’s a penny and it’s on the verge of being delisted.
The merger and the judge, that’s all that matters. I’m glad to see more JBLU guys for this merger as we are all realizing we need to grow to compete. This is the way
By the way; did anyone else notice the Reagan quote at the end of yesterday's trial notes...I mean it was about Veteran's Day (Happy Vet's Day to all), but it was very fitting that the Reagan appointed judge picked a Reagan quote, just sayin'
11-10-2023, 06:46 AM
#113
That/It/Thang
Joined APC: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,921
I just wish he just chose another famous Reagan quote “Government is not the solution to our problems, government is the problem.”
11-10-2023, 07:38 AM
#114
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Posts: 770
Exactly.
And for some that are new to the game, here is some sad truth for this industry; airlines have and will file bankruptcy. It’s the industry. And I’ll add, Chapter 11 is much better than continuing to **** through money to the point you close the doors.
NK probably files Ch11 first half of 2024 if this merger gets shot down. JBLU, who knows, maybe Robin gets shown the door and a new CEO has to make decisions if the merger fails.
But this ridiculous “the stock is at…” every day doesn’t matter. Come wake me when it’s a penny and it’s on the verge of being delisted.
The merger and the judge, that’s all that matters. I’m glad to see more JBLU guys for this merger as we are all realizing we need to grow to compete. This is the way
And for some that are new to the game, here is some sad truth for this industry; airlines have and will file bankruptcy. It’s the industry. And I’ll add, Chapter 11 is much better than continuing to **** through money to the point you close the doors.
NK probably files Ch11 first half of 2024 if this merger gets shot down. JBLU, who knows, maybe Robin gets shown the door and a new CEO has to make decisions if the merger fails.
But this ridiculous “the stock is at…” every day doesn’t matter. Come wake me when it’s a penny and it’s on the verge of being delisted.
The merger and the judge, that’s all that matters. I’m glad to see more JBLU guys for this merger as we are all realizing we need to grow to compete. This is the way
11-10-2023, 07:48 AM
#115
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This. Shared a van full of pilots with one particularly loud captain making the assertion that if the merger doesn't happen the stock price will "go to zero which will put us in bankruptcy.." When I asked what one thing had to do with the other he said "if we don't turn a profit the stock is worthless", to which I asked about companies with years of zero earnings that have share prices that continually climb, he informed me that such companies don't exist. I just let it go as some people just enjoy beating their drum even if they've never heard the song.
11-10-2023, 08:47 AM
#116
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11-10-2023, 09:21 AM
#117
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I don’t get the Robin hate either. He is responsible for the only two things at this company making money right now.
He was the driving force behind mint and Europe. Barger fought him on both for years.
On paper he is ultimately responsible for Jo and the operation, but I think his hands are tied by the board.
He was the driving force behind mint and Europe. Barger fought him on both for years.
On paper he is ultimately responsible for Jo and the operation, but I think his hands are tied by the board.
11-10-2023, 09:28 AM
#118
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Joined APC: May 2023
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Judging by how they sound when giving interviews, I can see how you would arrive at that conclusion......but we really don't know.
11-10-2023, 10:22 AM
#119
The REAL Bluedriver
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Position: Airbus Capt
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This is where I'm at. I think if Robin is replaced there's a 90% chance the new guy is worse for us.
11-10-2023, 10:50 AM
#120
That/It/Thang
Joined APC: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,921
This. Shared a van full of pilots with one particularly loud captain making the assertion that if the merger doesn't happen the stock price will "go to zero which will put us in bankruptcy.." When I asked what one thing had to do with the other he said "if we don't turn a profit the stock is worthless", to which I asked about companies with years of zero earnings that have share prices that continually climb, he informed me that such companies don't exist. I just let it go as some people just enjoy beating their drum even if they've never heard the song.
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