Mikeer50

Unfortunately it’s too late for that. That’s what will happen when Frontier tries to merge with Spirit next year. There hasn’t been a material change in Spirit’s financial position over the past 2 months. The time to argue that point was during the trial. I agree, they should have pushed that point harder. I think it’s a fine line though, if the merger wasn’t approved Spirit’s management still has a company to run.

hockeypilot44

It’s called sample size. You don’t need to question everyone.

skitheline

Unfortunately, TC had every chance during his testimony to make this point but chose to, for god knows what reason, say spirit had a path to profitability when there was, in fact, no plan to profitability.

nuball5

Unless you have a background in antitrust law, how do you know they did a poor job? I know pilots know all, but without being present in the courtroom and/or having any legal experience, I don’t know how you can claim that.


If I land firm on rwy 32 in BOS, I don’t expect an antitrust lawyer will critique me. 😂

Bgood

So would you say the few pilots Cindy ran into or text etc, between the ruling and now, is a good sample size? You don't need to question everyone but you need a good mix and count in the sample size to make a conclusion. How many commuters vs living-in-base peeps has he/she asked? What's the mix in the sample? Does living in base automatically means the person is ok with how things are and are against the merger? Again, it's opinion based on what Cindy wants to believe, because he/she is against the merger. It's not fact.

Example. How many times when we have a TA to vote on does pilots come on here saying "It seems like majority of the group is voting no" only for that to be wrong? Maybe the sample size is too small? Maybe folks are not being completely honest? Unless there is official data, we are always talking out of our a$$es.

I'm in base and I wasn't against the merger. Different strokes for different hoes......I mean folks.

Roy Biggins

is your cousin one of the attorneys? 😂 I'm saying that because they lost. And they had years to prepare the case. They rested their case early thinking they had just slam dunked it. When they did that, I had a bad feeling. Something else that alarmed me: Andy made a post in here saying he suggested one of our attorneys ask a particular question (I forget what question) and the attorney listened to him...taking advice from some random in the courtroom also seemed concerning 😂. As someone said above, when TC got on the stand and said they had a profitable path forward without JB, that did not help the case either. Why they didn't better prepare their case and their witnesses is beyond me, but here we are. This doesn't equate to a hard landing, it equates to not getting to your destination...in which case, a passenger would be well within reason to question your piloting skills.

nuball5

One of the antitrust lawyers “listened” to some random person in the courtroom. Well you got me there. How intently was he listening? A lot? A little? Somewhere in between? Did he write it down?

JetBlue lost because the Judge had a very myopic view of the Clayton Act. It doesn’t mean the JetBlue lawyers did a bad job. Actually most of the rhetoric I heard was how badly the DOJ was performing in court. I started to believe it too. Not enough to load up on SAVE like some pilots did thinking they knew the DOJ had a bad case, but I gave JetBlue a 50/50 shot. Maybe in the end they simply had an uphill climb trying to convince the judge that removing a ULCC from the market was a good idea like many experts thought.

pilotpayne

oh sure they do just visit airliners.net ☺️

Roy Biggins

When everyone else was talking about their imminent JCBA, I will say, you were one of the few that had tempered expectations of the looming verdict. Yea I agree, it was a myopic view, but the Clayton Act was on trial. JB couldn't make their case.

Flyby1206

Unless you’re a Delter pilot. In that case you’d be considered a hero for miraculously landing on Rwy 32 and you’d chalk it up to your expertise landing on “The Ship”™ when you used to fly F-teens.