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04-05-2022, 04:00 PM

#81

disenchantMINT

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Originally Posted by Flyhayes

you're kidding right? As a commuter I can tell you hands down that our economy seats have a lot more space than anyone else I've flown on. It makes a huge difference.

He lost me at in-flight magazines lolz. But yes you're right 39" of seat pitch on E90 EMS + live TV & wifi sucks for everyone with no leg room regardless of what paint is on the outside of the plane.

04-05-2022, 04:02 PM

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disenchantMINT

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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18

Yea same order relative to your company.. the seniority lists aren’t rearranged by seniority in seat or anything weird like that.

The arbitrator will determine a method based on each unions arguments of relative seniority, longevity or career expectation etc and slot the pilots in via a ratio, multiple ratios within ranges or frankly whatever he(or they as a group) decide.
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I haven't followed Spirit's product development but do their pilots have career expectations of long-haul transoceanic with lie flat suites? Asking for a friend.

04-05-2022, 04:06 PM

#83

RiddleEagle18

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Originally Posted by disenchantMINT

I haven't followed Spirit's product development but do their pilots have career expectations of long-haul transoceanic with lie flat suites? Asking for a friend.

No.

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04-05-2022, 04:12 PM

#84

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Originally Posted by disenchantMINT

I haven't followed Spirit's product development but do their pilots have career expectations of long-haul transoceanic with lie flat suites? Asking for a friend.

🤦

oh boy.

04-05-2022, 04:16 PM

#85

DontCallMeCindy

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Originally Posted by disenchantMINT

Sorry, Al, but I don't think many JetBlue pilots were hoping to get bought by UA/DL/[especially]AA.

Lol whut? Almost every singje JB pilot I know desperately wants UAL/AA/DAL to buy us

04-05-2022, 04:16 PM

#86

Chimpy

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Originally Posted by disenchantMINT

I haven't followed Spirit's product development but do their pilots have career expectations of long-haul transoceanic with lie flat suites? Asking for a friend.

you can have that sh-*t., lol putting a fence on that until the day I retire would be a huge gain 😂

04-05-2022, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by disenchantMINT

I haven't followed Spirit's product development but do their pilots have career expectations of long-haul transoceanic with lie flat suites? Asking for a friend.

Who cares what kind of "suites" the passengers have. Also who cares if you're flying over land or oceans???

04-05-2022, 04:19 PM

#88

DontCallMeCindy

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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator

spirit upgrade is nowhere near 2 years. It’s closer to 3.5-4 and increasing.

What’s seniority to hold FLL/MCO 320 CA at NK?

And how does that compare to what it takes to hold same seats at B6?

04-05-2022, 04:23 PM

#89

tailendcharlie

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Originally Posted by DontCallMeCindy

Spirit MCO 320 CA is what—4 years? 2/3 for FLL 320 CA?

It’s 15-20 and 8-10 here, respectively.

This will be catastrophic for us JB folks’ seniority.

Right up George Nicolau’s alley….
except he died….
but still…..

04-05-2022, 04:29 PM

#90

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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18

Yea same order relative to your company.. the seniority lists aren’t rearranged by seniority in seat or anything weird like that…

Thanks, that’s what I thought, but a friend seemed sure that the Captains would go up on the new list and FOs would go down, regardless of original DOH. Essentially a big reshuffling of everyone’s seniority within their original airline list. It didn’t sound right to me, but in 20 years of airlines this would be my first M&A.