JetBlue bids for Spirit Airlines
04-11-2022, 10:10 AM
#311
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Agreed. I just think there is not a lot of understanding of what the alpa merger policy actually is and is not.
Alaska also had the jcba arbitration language, which in reality probably moved the entire process forward more quickly than a straight jcba negotiation, and it still took 2.5 years until SLI was complete. We have a very long way to go here.
They also weren’t trying to merge two cba’s. They basically just adopted alaskas.
Our jcba process will most likely be a little more difficult to slug through but we also hold much more leverage for improvements than Alaska/VA did.
I expect a great JCBA on par with legacies.
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Alaska also had the jcba arbitration language, which in reality probably moved the entire process forward more quickly than a straight jcba negotiation, and it still took 2.5 years until SLI was complete. We have a very long way to go here.
They also weren’t trying to merge two cba’s. They basically just adopted alaskas.
Our jcba process will most likely be a little more difficult to slug through but we also hold much more leverage for improvements than Alaska/VA did.
I expect a great JCBA on par with legacies.
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04-11-2022, 10:12 AM
#312
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When you say “on par with legacies,” I hope you mean on par with whatever they get this round, and only assuming they are rock solid compared to their existing CBAs. We collectively need to start adopting the term “better than” into our vocabulary. “Market rate” and “average” and “on par with” won’t cut it anymore. No more leapfrogging just to try to catch up, especially with 3,000+ spirit pilots. By the time this thing closes, if it does, we could be a 9k+ pilot group…with attrition and JCBA time on our side as leverage.
By the time this closes I fully expect the legacies to be done their contract cycle and for us to join the pattern bargaining game.
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04-11-2022, 12:03 PM
#313
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When you say “on par with legacies,” I hope you mean on par with whatever they get this round, and only assuming they are rock solid compared to their existing CBAs. We collectively need to start adopting the term “better than” into our vocabulary. “Market rate” and “average” and “on par with” won’t cut it anymore. No more leapfrogging just to try to catch up, especially with 3,000+ spirit pilots. By the time this thing closes, if it does, we could be a 9k+ pilot group…with attrition and JCBA time on our side as leverage.
04-11-2022, 12:22 PM
#314
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Well if this merger does go through this would probably be the most leverage we will ever have. I’m pretty sure we must have a joint CBA before it’s done….soooooooo
04-11-2022, 01:37 PM
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04-11-2022, 02:05 PM
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04-11-2022, 02:06 PM
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