JetBlue bids for Spirit Airlines
04-07-2022, 10:23 AM
#161
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60% weight to DOH
40% to status
For the status list first you need to stovepipe everyone into their highest paying seat they can hold at their starting company. Then feather together the Airbus CAs for both companies (roughly 9 NK for every 10 JB). Then come the A220 CAs, E90 CAs, feather together the A320 FOs from both companies then 220 FOs and 190 FOs.
40% to status
For the status list first you need to stovepipe everyone into their highest paying seat they can hold at their starting company. Then feather together the Airbus CAs for both companies (roughly 9 NK for every 10 JB). Then come the A220 CAs, E90 CAs, feather together the A320 FOs from both companies then 220 FOs and 190 FOs.
04-07-2022, 10:26 AM
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That would be true if status had 100% of the weight, but you have to factor in the 60% of weight towards DOH.
04-07-2022, 10:27 AM
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60% weight to DOH
40% to status
For the status list first you need to stovepipe everyone into their highest paying seat they can hold at their starting company. Then feather together the Airbus CAs for both companies (roughly 9 NK for every 10 JB). Then come the A220 CAs, E90 CAs, feather together the A320 FOs from both companies then 220 FOs and 190 FOs.
40% to status
For the status list first you need to stovepipe everyone into their highest paying seat they can hold at their starting company. Then feather together the Airbus CAs for both companies (roughly 9 NK for every 10 JB). Then come the A220 CAs, E90 CAs, feather together the A320 FOs from both companies then 220 FOs and 190 FOs.
So someone that’s currently a FO at Jetblue for QOL purposes but could hold A320CA, that has no bearing at all usually correct?
04-07-2022, 10:40 AM
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Relative is fair. Top 10 at either you stay top 10 combined.
04-07-2022, 10:44 AM
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You can do a pure DOH/Relative Seniority without carving out aircraft. Again, there are no widebody or regional jets at either airline. Run a stovepipe list for both sides and play with the %s and come up with a list that both sides hate. Then you'll know you have the right list.
04-07-2022, 10:48 AM
#166
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Kidding, I think, but makes the point.
04-07-2022, 11:37 AM
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Is this a joke? JB's contract is early opener amendable right now. JB is in the last few MONTHS of our contract... So yeah, it is a valid comparison. Our A220s pay more than your A320s, and our E190s are already announced to be being retired/phases out. You're not gonna win that argument.
04-07-2022, 11:44 AM
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Valid comparison, um nope. You guys just signed in a LOA with a 3% raise that are your current rates as of 5-1-22. You think the company is actually going to negotiate now? Why would they...you bent over for the AA stuff and now that they got what they needed from you, good luck. Like I said Sun County has better rates than you do.
04-07-2022, 12:33 PM
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Relative would be detrimental to B6… A 2007 B6 guy is the same as a 2015NK.
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