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Old 05-27-2022, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Cockpit997
https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1434621/download

Page 4.

I did that in the same amount of time it took you to whine ate bluedriver.
Do you have access to any post 2013 DATA? The document was filed in 2021 but the data is from the past decade.
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Old 05-27-2022, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
I never said the new data was from the DOJ or MIT, I said JetBlue has new data, with examples.
Oh, stuff they cherry picked? Where is it?
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Old 05-27-2022, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by godsgift2aviatn
Is there any DATA that's not 10 years old?
Here's some current data:

FLL-DTW ( as listed on the JB propaganda)...we don't do that flight anymore.
Must have been so lucrative that we got out...too much "effect"?
To see more examples, please visit JetBlue.com
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Old 05-27-2022, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by godsgift2aviatn
Do you have access to any post 2013 DATA? The document was filed in 2021 but the data is from the past decade.
The Airbus calls your name every landing at about 5 feet…

You need help and I’m not giving it to you.
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Old 05-27-2022, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Tranquility
Well, we voted 100% to strike back in 2017 if that gives you some basis for comparison. Take that Alaska!
And on June 12th 100% of those at NK WENT on strike. We’ll hold the line for a good JCBA
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Old 05-27-2022, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
You are the gift that keeps on giving. Tell me more.

you keep referencing F9 and their DEN margins. Do you know exactly what those are? Having worked for Franke at one point in the past, if he thinks he can make 10 cents more by using gates without jetways, he’ll do it. Doesn’t mean their margins are bad, he’s just greedy. I don’t know what their margins in DEN are. Honest discussion here.
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Old 05-27-2022, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by godsgift2aviatn
Do you have access to any post 2013 DATA? The document was filed in 2021 but the data is from the past decade.
It doesn't matter what you or I think, lets listen to the words from the DOJ's mouth:

JetBlue’s reputation for lowering fares is so well known in the airline industry that it has earned a name: the “JetBlue Effect.” JetBlue’s record in Boston and New York City illustrates why. Since launching service at Boston Logan in 2004, JetBlue has challenged the major airlines—including American—by offering lower fares and better service. Consumers voted with their feet. JetBlue became Boston’s leading airline, offering more flights out of Boston than any other airline. What’s more, JetBlue forced American and other airlines that serve Boston to lower their fares as well. This competition has resulted in substantial savings for consumers. In 2019, JetBlue estimated that it had saved consumers flying to and from Boston more than $3 billion since it started serving the airport in 2004. JetBlue has had a similar effect in New York City. In a presentation titled “16 Years of Disrupting the Industry,” JetBlue explained that “there’s no question we are a disruptor. There’s no better example of how we’ve influenced change than at our home at JFK Airport.”
Additionally Robin Hayes yesterday:

Look what’s happened on the Boston-LaGuardia shuttle these days. Look what’s happened to London fares. I mean, time and time again when JetBlue steps into a market, there’s a market-wide positive impact. So, we are confident in our case. We would not have entered into this if we didn’t feel confident. Spirit have said, wow, why did they wait seven weeks? You know what we were doing in that seven weeks? We were running all the economic analyses again. We were crunching all of the fare data to make sure the JetBlue effect was real and common. We were looking at every way, upside down, inside out to make sure that everything we believed back in 2019 was still the case.
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Old 05-27-2022, 07:02 PM
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OK, you guys don’t seem to grasp the fact that all the DATA being used to quantify JetBlue as disruptive is from 10 years ago. Every bit of it. Back when B6 was indeed a low cost airline.

Now JetBlue is pricing tickets at or ABOVE legacy fares. Don’t believe me do a google airfare search on nonstop city pairs.

How can you be bringing prices down when your prices exceed that of the carriers you are supposedly keeping in check?

Either way, call it what you want. I’m just glad Spirit won’t be subject to your delusional CEO.
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Old 05-27-2022, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by godsgift2aviatn
OK, you guys don’t seem to grasp the fact that all the DATA being used to quantify JetBlue as as disruptive is from 10 years ago. Every bit of it. Back when B6 was indeed a low cost airline.

Now JetBlue is pricing tickets at or ABOVE legacy fares. Don’t believe me do a google airfare search on nonstop city pairs.

How can you be bringing prices down when your prices exceed that of the carriers you are supposedly keeping in check?
Why are you wasting your time on these clowns. Bluedriver has it all figured out and is wayyyyyyy smarter than the good lord himself. Not to mention a wiss in the English grammar…
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Old 05-27-2022, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by godsgift2aviatn
OK, you guys don’t seem to grasp the fact that all the DATA being used to quantify JetBlue as disruptive is from 10 years ago. Every bit of it. Back when B6 was indeed a low cost airline.

Now JetBlue is pricing tickets at or ABOVE legacy fares. Don’t believe me do a google airfare search on nonstop city pairs.

How can you be bringing prices down when your prices exceed that of the carriers you are supposedly keeping in check?

Either way, call it what you want. I’m just glad Spirit won’t be subject to your delusional CEO.

True I’m sure your new CEO will be much better.
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