BunkerF16

Well I think JB's product is sustainable, especially with a nationwide product and not just concentrated on the coasts. Would you rather, in 20 years, be a large ULCC and all that comes with it, or a SWA-like domestic presence with a more upscale product and expanding international route structure as well?

No one can predict the future, and I know I'm biased, but I know which one I'd rather bet on.

BunkerF16

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nuball5

The sustainability of the product doesn’t matter if you can’t retain the employees hired to execute said product. A NK/F9 tie up would slow seniority progression to a screeching halt and so would JetBlue. I don’t see in this day in age, a merger of anyone besides the Big 3 legacies being anything but a short term bandaid. Heck, Alaska merged with Virgin not that long ago and their name gets thrown around when talking about potential mergers.

fumeevented

If jetblue kept spirit's bases and aircraft orders and negotiated a decent contract they wouldn't have any problem's staffing.

A lot of if's but there is a timeline in which jetblue succeeds.

godsgift2aviatn

I certainly can't predict the future, I'd be a Billionaire if I could. I'm a believer in the ULCC model, that's just my opinion, its not gospel. We just disagree and that's fine and normal.

BunkerF16

Yep. Agree.

keysersose

So you're top 10% and only 40 years old?

If true, that is the definitional reason for using longevity in an integration. Without it, all the 50 year olds at Jetblue at 15% have an absolutely smashed end to their seniority progression.

godsgift2aviatn

Must have hit the wrong key and didn't check it 30%

Bluedriver

You believe in the ULCC model, the one where Frontier can't even make margins in their main hub if they have to pay for jetways? The model that can't take market share from high-fare United and Southwest in Denver? The ULCC model that requires the only two large ULCCs in the country to merge because they are already running out of routes that can support daily service and are having to compete and cannibalize each other's customers on those routes? The model that depends on pilot wages/cost below it's established competition, at a time when there are not enough pilots to make that low-wage plan viable? The ULCC model where Spirit management (written by Frontier management) has to put out financial performance projections post merger based on 5 years of zero wage growth to hide the true financial performance projections that investors would reject? The ULCC model, where despite large metropolitan areas having millions of budget constrained travelers, have not managed to take large proportions of market share from the high-fare airlines?

Yeah, you REALLY know the market ...

godsgift2aviatn

In typical Troll fashion you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.