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Old 05-25-2022, 04:11 PM
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MIT study: https://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/han...AT-2013-07.pdf

Another paper focused on JB: https://www.econstor.eu/bitstream/10.../729897362.pdf
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Old 05-25-2022, 04:58 PM
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Both those studies took place back when this place still had residual mojo from Neleman, before all the start up growth culture was wrung out of it in order to buy back stock at $25/share, start potato farms, and buy electric airplane companies.
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Old 05-25-2022, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
I'm sorry you can't do proper research when I've told you where to look.

As for frequency, you, like most of your colleagues, think that if Delta is doing 6 a day that you should be. The ULCC market on most routes, other than to Mickey Mouse or Lost wages, doesn't support that frequency. You and the other ULCC have been cannibalizing each other's customers on the limited routes that support daily ULCC service, and that is why you are seeking to merge together.
As I suspected, you couldn't procure the DATA. Don't worry you won't be able to find it because it's all smoke and mirrors. As for our routes, we can certainly use more frequency as most of our flight are booked full. No need to cannibalize when we can just syphon customers from high cost carriers, like taking candy from a baby.
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Old 05-25-2022, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by todd1200
Like I said 10 years old. Pathetic that your CEO would use this outdated DATA. Just goes to show how desperate and deceitful he is. Your BOD needs to recall this clown before he sends you to BK court.
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Old 05-25-2022, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SaintNick
A large equity firm just file a lawsuit that spirit did not do it’s fiduciary duty. Makes ya wonder
Seems like this may be your first foray into a business merger. Frontier shareholders did the same thing against Frontier when Franke put the bid out to Spirit. Spirit shareholders did the same thing against Frontier.

Welcome to business.
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Old 05-25-2022, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by godsgift2aviatn
As I suspected, you couldn't procure the DATA. Don't worry you won't be able to find it because it's all smoke and mirrors. As for our routes, we can certainly use more frequency as most of our flight are booked full. No need to cannibalize when we can just syphon customers from high cost carriers, like taking candy from a baby.
I can do the work for you, I simply choose not to.

As for taking candy from a baby, you can't even take market share from United and Southwest I'm Denver, can't even afford to pay for jetways I'm Denver and still make margins. Go wax poetic about your fantasies to someone dumb enough to believe them.
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Old 05-26-2022, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
I can do the work for you, I simply choose not to.

As for taking candy from a baby, you can't even take market share from United and Southwest I'm Denver, can't even afford to pay for jetways I'm Denver and still make margins. Go wax poetic about your fantasies to someone dumb enough to believe them.
"I'm not sure if you are a real live pilot, but proficiency with the English language is a requirement when you do go for your pilots license in the future. Might want to take some courses."

LOL. You don't think everyone can see through your primitive attempt to cover up the fact that you're mistaken? I work for NK not F9 so I have no idea what you're talking about in DEN. But before you go throwing stones tell me again about your stellar performance in ATL, MIA, BNA, STL, ORD, MSY, EWR and IAH.

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Old 05-26-2022, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by godsgift2aviatn
"I'm not sure if you are a real live pilot, but proficiency with the English language is a requirement when you do go for your pilots license in the future. Might want to take some courses."

LOL. You don't think everyone can see through your primitive attempt to cover up the fact that you're mistaken? I work for NK not F9 so I have no idea what you're talking about in DEN. But before you go throwing stones tell me again about your stellar performance in ATL, MIA, BNA, STL, ORD, MSY, EWR and IAH.

Stay thirsty my friend

So, you want to work for Frontier, and think you know the business model so well, yet you don't know that Frontier is moving their Denver operation to a different location that doesn't have jetways? They are gonna make their customers walk the tarmac, year around, in Denver, because they can't make margins while paying for jetways, and you didn't know that? Didn't know that Frontier can't even take market share from high fare United and Southwest in Denver?

This is EXACTLY why I won't do your homework for you. The more you type the more you reveal.


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Old 05-26-2022, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
So, you want to work for Frontier, and think you know the business model so well, yet you don't know that Frontier is moving their Denver operation to a different location that doesn't have jetways? They are gonna make their customers walk the tarmac, year around, in Denver, because they can't make margins while paying for jetways, and you didn't know that? Didn't know that Frontier can't even take market share from high fare United and Southwest in Denver?

This is EXACTLY why I won't do your homework for you. The more you type the more you reveal.

I know what F9 is and I still prefer them to B6. Not that your product is bad, just not my idea of a sound business model in the current environment.

B6/NK wouldn’t be good for either airline, like trying to put a square peg in a round hole.

Tell me again about “JetBlue Effect”. I’ll change my avatar to a picture of a clown if you can do it.

​​​​​​​but you won’t cause posting a link is backbreaking work.
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Originally Posted by godsgift2aviatn
I know what F9 is and I still prefer them to B6. Not that your product is bad, just not my idea of a sound business model in the current environment.

B6/NK wouldn’t be good for either airline, like trying to put a square peg in a round hole.

Tell me again about “JetBlue Effect”. I’ll change my avatar to a picture of a clown if you can do it.

but you won’t cause posting a link is backbreaking work.
Hilarious. You don't like the B6/NK merger because you ran numbers and know you'll lose significant relative seniority and that makes you sad. Don't make it about some deep dive DD and analysis you did on the airline industry and everyone's part in it. NK product disappears and transforms into B6 so there's not square peg and round hole. Your round hole gets plugged by the peg and your product disappears.

Stop with the sanctimony and just admit you don't want B6 because of how your personal situation most likely plays out in it.
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