Originally Posted by Roy Biggins

Apparently Qatar cancelled their 330 NEO order, and Robin is looking hard at it getting them at a discount. According to a ‘reputable management source’ via BP…fwiw. Seems plausible since it’s no secret Robin wants WB’s. Something else to talk about at least 😎

Originally Posted by Roy Biggins

Apparently Qatar cancelled their 330 NEO order, and Robin is looking hard at it getting them at a discount. According to a ‘reputable management source’ via BP…fwiw. Seems plausible since it’s no secret Robin wants WB’s. Something else to talk about at least 😎

Originally Posted by Desdi

Qatar never ordered 330 NEOs ! But I guess it makes for good gossip!

Originally Posted by Desdi

Qatar never ordered 330 NEOs ! But I guess it makes for good gossip!

Originally Posted by Excargodog

The fact that many people are ignorant of geography not withstanding, a huge opening in the A330NEO order book has recently appeared. Those slots and white tails will go somewhere at a goodly discount to list:

Originally Posted by Bluedriver

I'm not sure if you are a real live pilot, but proficiency with the English language is a requirement when you do go for your pilots license in the future. Might want to take some courses.

What you are showing is which airline has the absolute lowest average fare. The discussion you are involved with, and the term "JetBlue Effect", as used by MIT and the DOJ is about which airline causes high fare entrenched legacies to lower THEIR average fares the most, and the data clearly shows JB does that.

Spirit may come to a market with the lowest fare, but legacy airlines largely ignore their entry because they aren't chasing the same customers, generally. They throw a few token "basic economy" seats on the market, but generally don't lower their average fare much at all. When JB comes to a market, they are largely forced to respond with much larger average fare reductions.

And... Spirit has 2-3x more overlap with Frontier than they do with JB. So the F9 acquisition is really about eliminating a low cost carrier they compete with over a larger proportion of their network, and would of course raise faires. There are only so many routes that really support ULCC service on any large scale, and Spirit and Frontier are already finding out they are running out of those routes and having to fight each other, so now they want to eliminate each other's prime competitor.

I said good day sir.

Originally Posted by SaintNick

With how much money we are losing every day based on them selling tickets at such a low price there is zero chance of this happening.

Originally Posted by godsgift2aviatn

If the DATA is so clear then why don't you share it with us? I looked at the press release and all I saw was a claim with a nebulous footnote. Extract that information if you can. My guess is you can't.

As far as the overlap goes, both NK and F9 suffer from embarrasingly low frequency. F9 more so than NK. So even with our overlap our frequency still wouldn't match that of any of the individual big 4 airlines. Thus rendering that argument moot.