JetBlue Pilot Hiring in 2020 & Beyond
01-04-2020, 06:50 AM
#112
The REAL Bluedriver
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He said 50 round trips. Gonna need a lot more than 26 planes to hit 50 RTs a day. It’s 10 years from now though...that’s forever and this airline will be a lot different/bigger by then. Our order book stops in 2025. I anticipate more orders extending it thru 2030 over the next few years. Guessing the 50 A220 options will be firmed up, and more XLRs or WBs announced in the next 2-3 years.
I’m also guessing WBs will be announced as soon as there is good TATL data. It’d be a big carrot to attract and retain newhires as our applicant pool dries up, and it’s a better use of valuable/limited slots. Also, WB rates would sure be nice to garner some yes votes on CBA2.0.
Just my .2 cents.
I’m also guessing WBs will be announced as soon as there is good TATL data. It’d be a big carrot to attract and retain newhires as our applicant pool dries up, and it’s a better use of valuable/limited slots. Also, WB rates would sure be nice to garner some yes votes on CBA2.0.
Just my .2 cents.
Also agree the A220 options will be firmed up, especially if they have real intentions of more focus cities.
Hopefully this is as good of a time to be hired by Blue as it appears.
01-04-2020, 06:51 AM
#113
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01-04-2020, 08:57 AM
#117
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That should work for 500+ next year. Just need 460+ zero-to-hero gateway pilots.
Somewhat related, there are a lot of very experienced JB pilots who are staying in the right seat of an Airbus (largely because the E190 captain payrate is so bad) while the E190 upgrade time goes very junior. As the new hires become more and more filled by zero-experience pilots, that's going to be a problem, in MY opinion.
I've been a Capt before during a time when I had 250 hour wonder pilots in the right seat of my jet. Some did better than others, but none were ready to be 121 FOs, and NONE were ready to be paired with junior captains. These guys might come somewhat better prepared with the higher minimums and additional jet transition training, but still most definitely need to be paired with pilots who were not themselves zero-to-hero 12 months prior...
This will be better after the last A220 replaces the last E190, but until then I really think JB needs to reconsider the E190 payrate from an experience standpoint, as well as it would likely reduce training churn as guys/gals would be willing to stay on the aircraft longer and some of the senior FO talent at JB would consider E190 left seat.
Safety vs. Savings.
Somewhat related, there are a lot of very experienced JB pilots who are staying in the right seat of an Airbus (largely because the E190 captain payrate is so bad) while the E190 upgrade time goes very junior. As the new hires become more and more filled by zero-experience pilots, that's going to be a problem, in MY opinion.
I've been a Capt before during a time when I had 250 hour wonder pilots in the right seat of my jet. Some did better than others, but none were ready to be 121 FOs, and NONE were ready to be paired with junior captains. These guys might come somewhat better prepared with the higher minimums and additional jet transition training, but still most definitely need to be paired with pilots who were not themselves zero-to-hero 12 months prior...
This will be better after the last A220 replaces the last E190, but until then I really think JB needs to reconsider the E190 payrate from an experience standpoint, as well as it would likely reduce training churn as guys/gals would be willing to stay on the aircraft longer and some of the senior FO talent at JB would consider E190 left seat.
Safety vs. Savings.
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