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Old 05-20-2024, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ProPilotBlue
Yep. I've been in the simulator and flown it. It's an airplane. Got fancy screens. The trip mix just isn't good enough for my taste. I don't really care which airplane I fly. It's about QOL for me, not how flashy the plane is. The A320/A321 flies just fine, and it's comfortable. I think the "it's new tech" argument is somewhat stupid.
I think it's not so much a stupid argument as it is mis-applied. The 220 is definitely not as physically comfortable as the 320 and yeah - lots of flat screens don't help you fly it better or make it a better airplane. That's just silly.

There are some positives with some of the newer tech though; the screen layout/system does give you some flexibilty in your systems/comms layout, and they are (I'm told) relatively easy/cheap to swap out if required. Flying to LPV mins is a nice option to have in the tool kit, too. The ECL system is pretty nice for trapping errors, and it really does cut down a lot of workload. It pressurizes really well, which feels less fatiguing. It sips fuel and if they ever decide to put a Mint-like section on board, I think it'll be a really nice compliment to the 320 fleet.

It's definitely got its quirks, but we seem to be getting better at dealing with them as the knowledge sinks in. The company has made a lot of progress with learning how to operate and fly it, and I think it could have a bright future here.
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Old 05-20-2024, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by avi8orco
because some of us don’t want to be sitting in the airport on hours long Mx delays when the POS keeps breaking….
Ive been on the 220 more than most, and I can count on a couple fingers where I’ve had a long MX delay. These days it’s few and far between. They’ve done a good job working through the teething issues.


I’m glad the POS narrative is still alive though. It’s really the only way most pilots can have a 30% seniority bump over the A320 with just giving up 4-5% pay….at least for now.
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Old 05-20-2024, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ProPilotBlue
And the trip variety will never be as good as the largest fleet, just due to math. I think it's an interesting narrative that people have built that the A320 is "old technology."

East of the Mississippi vs. east of the Mississippi?
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Old 05-20-2024, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by nuball5
I’m glad the POS narrative is still alive though. It’s really the only way most pilots can have a 30% seniority bump over the A320 with just giving up 4-5% pay….at least for now.
pretty sure a dose of reality is coming for a number of those pilots with that idea in about 4 days…
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Old 05-20-2024, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by avi8orco
pretty sure a dose of reality is coming for a number of those pilots with that idea in about 4 days…

Well if a lot of people “think” that bidding the 220 is asking for a gate return for MX every other leg, that dose of reality will only last until the August system bid.
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Old 06-17-2024, 01:48 PM
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any class in June?
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Old 06-19-2024, 09:18 AM
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I originally had a class for July 10th and it just got pushed to August 21st. Anyone has an idea of whats going on in the training dept?
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Old 06-19-2024, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by mcruz00792
I originally had a class for July 10th and it just got pushed to August 21st. Anyone has an idea of whats going on in the training dept?
same boat as you, class July 23rd pushed to August 21st
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Old 06-19-2024, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by mcruz00792
I originally had a class for July 10th and it just got pushed to August 21st. Anyone has an idea of whats going on in the training dept?
All classes paused until August, then will have two classes per month for the rest of the year. Only 1 class in August.

As for "why?", I would presume to let the dust settle and numbers to arrange themselves after the displacement bid that just occurred, in addition to the fact that the A220 has an IOE wait time of around 1 to 1.5 months (and growing). Summer is historically not the best for hiring, most airlines slow hiring around this time every year. With hiring being slow at the big 3, attrition here is also slow, and we're really only hiring for attrition. Things will pick back up in the Fall.
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Old 06-19-2024, 11:49 AM
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if you guys don't mind me asking, how many and what type hours you guys had when you interviewed?
I was wondering if I had any chances with no CR failure and 2000 total 500 sic 121 currently at a regional
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