CareerPivot

Yes there was. Not sure what the drop was, though.

FLAPvsFLAPS

5/15 drop:

A320
1 LAX
3 JFK

A220
3 JFK

E190
2 BOS

David Puddy

Just bid the A220 and never look back.... Welcome to the 21st Century jet.

avi8orco

because some of us don’t want to be sitting in the airport on hours long Mx delays when the POS keeps breaking….

ProPilotBlue

And the trip variety will never be as good as the largest fleet, just due to math. I think it's an interesting narrative that people have built that the A320 is "old technology."

avi8orco

it is old technology…but it works. Take an off the assembly line Tesla and any 10 year old Corolla that’s already served one owner, maintain them as recommended, and drive them until they fall apart. I know which of the two will still be on the road in the end.

The Tesla will be more efficient, no question, but the Corolla will make up for that in the cost aspect of longevity and mechanical headaches.

***riot shield out and mags loaded for the Tesla nuts and Musk minions on this board***

David Puddy

Have you been in an A220 cockpit yet? I've talked to a few guys who still haven't seen the inside of an A220. The legacy Airbus cockpit looks archaic in comparison. I agree that the airplane has serious teething issues, but the route variety should increase as more airframes arrive. Plus, with Robin working at Airbus now, perhaps he can push for the newer A220-500 version since he was begging for it for many years prior to his departure. Now he can sell the airplane to JB and others if it gets the development green light. The bigger A220-500 will put the A320 CEO & NEO to shame in terms of its lower CASM. Future fleet mix could be A220-300, A220-500 and A321 NEO/LR/XLR (unless Carl Icahn disagrees of course).

Bluediver

The belief in him is beyond me. Under his tenure are two failed mergers and a once profitable and growing airline floundering in his wake.

aewanabe

I don't fly the 220, but have several good friends who do. The ones who only flew the Embraer, generally love it. The ones who came from the "original" bus, generally can't wait to bid off the "Canabus" and come back to the 320/321 fleet.

Why, you ask? Because quite frankly, as airline pilots, gee-whiz screens and ECLs are cool for about a month, then the reality of using the jet sets in. What I hear from my friends, is that compared to the 320 fleet: the 220 seats are lousy, it's noisier, the tray table is a flimsy gimmick, they miss being able to open a window for fresh air at the gate, and they are tired of the constant electrical resets, plus weight restrictions since we ordered the cheap version of the -300.

Don't get me wrong, the jet is a great ride in the back, our customers love it, and I'm glad that we ordered it instead of the E-2. But Airbus got an awful lot of things right from a flight deck ergonomics perspective 40 years ago with the original 320 series. Most of us will not see it as a net positive to our work lives if the 220 replaces the 320 as the mainstay of our fleet.

ProPilotBlue

Yep. I've been in the simulator and flown it. It's an airplane. Got fancy screens. The trip mix just isn't good enough for my taste. I don't really care which airplane I fly. It's about QOL for me, not how flashy the plane is. The A320/A321 flies just fine, and it's comfortable. I think the "it's new tech" argument is somewhat stupid.