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Old 02-26-2024, 03:23 PM
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Are VILs relatively easy to get, or do guys tend to scoop them up pretty quickly? How does that work? Definitely an interesting feature I don't think many places have...
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Old 02-26-2024, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by PlaneS
Are VILs relatively easy to get, or do guys tend to scoop them up pretty quickly? How does that work? Definitely an interesting feature I don't think many places have...
Depends, last month JFK 320 CAs had a bunch of VILs but ~10 went unfilled due to lack of additional bidders. When they offer smaller amounts of VILs they tend to go very senior. It has been all over the place in terms of numbers the past few months, so kind of difficult to predict.
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Old 02-27-2024, 05:29 AM
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Depends, last month JFK 320 CAs had a bunch of VILs but ~10 went unfilled due to lack of additional bidders. When they offer smaller amounts of VILs they tend to go very senior. It has been all over the place in terms of numbers the past few months, so kind of difficult to predict.
I thought that it was because the company decided not to exercise the use off all vil openinga that they published.
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I thought that it was because the company decided not to exercise the use off all vil openinga that they published.

this is correct. The company put out a bid with a large number and the award was for far less than offered.
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Old 02-27-2024, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Wasntme
this is correct. The company put out a bid with a large number and the award was for far less than offered.
yes, but they went through every single bidder in JFK. Nobody was denied due to seniority if they bid for one

If there were more bidders would the company have issued more VILs? I think it is likely.
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
yes, but they went through every single bidder in JFK. Nobody was denied due to seniority if they bid for one
How many JFK FOs who bid one got one ?
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Originally Posted by Softpayman
How many JFK FOs who bid one got one ?
This is speaking in regards to the JFK 320 CA VILs for March. There were 80 max available, 71 awarded. There weren’t any available FO VILs for March
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
This is speaking in regards to the JFK 320 CA VILs for March. There were 80 max available, 71 awarded. There weren’t any available FO VILs for March

kind of a red herring. There were 16 JFK CA Vils denied due to vacation, training or bid status. No other base was even awarded Vils after being offered.
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Originally Posted by Wasntme
kind of a red herring. There were 16 JFK CA Vils denied due to vacation, training or bid status. No other base was even awarded Vils after being offered.
The point I was trying to make is that VILs sometimes go senior and sometimes go junior. In the March example the most junior eligible bidder was awarded a VIL and they still had not reached the max available number. Maybe 71 is coincidentally all that the company wanted to award and there were only 71 eligible bidders. The MIL/vac/training denials were pilots who didn’t read the eligibility requirements and put in a bid anyways
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Originally Posted by PlaneS
Are VILs relatively easy to get, or do guys tend to scoop them up pretty quickly? How does that work? Definitely an interesting feature I don't think many places have...
Basically boiling it down… few FOs got one, most CA could get one. Seems like the CAs and FAs are most overstaffed, also seem like the 2 groups that always look for very high credit months so most open time gets grabbed instantly. FO side less staffed and guys less likely to pick up open time. Just what I gather from guys on the line.
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