Class Drops
07-13-2023, 10:18 AM
#1982
SDQ Base Chief
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 320 CA
Posts: 5,665
Junior pilot in PVBM as of 3/2/24 (some of these may be the result of base trades)
Approx 4950 pilots total
#3319 4/18 BOS 320 CA
#2898 6/16 BOS 320 SQ CA
#3044 2/17 EWR 320 CA
#2387 4/14 FLL 320 CA
#3281 3/18 JFK 320 CA
#2753 10/15 JFK 320 SQ CA
#2839 3/16 LAX 320 CA
#1553 1/08 MCO 320 CA
#3468 1/19 BOS 223 CA
#2725 8/15 JFK 223 CA
#4884 4/23 BOS 190 CA
Approx 4950 pilots total
#3319 4/18 BOS 320 CA
#2898 6/16 BOS 320 SQ CA
#3044 2/17 EWR 320 CA
#2387 4/14 FLL 320 CA
#3281 3/18 JFK 320 CA
#2753 10/15 JFK 320 SQ CA
#2839 3/16 LAX 320 CA
#1553 1/08 MCO 320 CA
#3468 1/19 BOS 223 CA
#2725 8/15 JFK 223 CA
#4884 4/23 BOS 190 CA
07-13-2023, 10:42 AM
#1983
Line Holder
Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 82
Last annual bid awarded a May 2022 hire E190 Captain with training this fall, so about 18 months.
A supplemental bid comes out in the next day or two and next annual bid is in August, so that could change things either way with the E190 winding down.
A supplemental bid comes out in the next day or two and next annual bid is in August, so that could change things either way with the E190 winding down.
07-13-2023, 10:49 AM
#1984
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 432
JFK 320 is also short. 583 FOs and 760 CAs as of the 3/2024 effective date. Throw in attrition—they’ll need a decent number of jfk 320 FO newhires. They did this bid weird though so it’s not as visible by keeping the target jfk 320 fo pilots low. Compare that to the last annual bid target pilots….vastly different. I suspect in the august bid those vacancies will be back.
07-13-2023, 11:31 AM
#1985
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2011
Posts: 468
JFK 320 is also short. 583 FOs and 760 CAs as of the 3/2024 effective date. Throw in attrition—they’ll need a decent number of jfk 320 FO newhires. They did this bid weird though so it’s not as visible by keeping the target jfk 320 fo pilots low. Compare that to the last annual bid target pilots….vastly different. I suspect in the august bid those vacancies will be back.
07-13-2023, 12:08 PM
#1986
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,920
Junior pilot in PVBM as of 3/2/24 (some of these may be the result of base trades)
Approx 4950 pilots total
#3319 4/18 BOS 320 CA
#2898 6/16 BOS 320 SQ CA
#3044 2/17 EWR 320 CA
#2387 4/14 FLL 320 CA
#3281 3/18 JFK 320 CA
#2753 10/15 JFK 320 SQ CA
#2839 3/16 LAX 320 CA
#1553 1/08 MCO 320 CA
#3468 1/19 BOS 223 CA
#2725 8/15 JFK 223 CA
#4884 4/23 BOS 190 CA
Approx 4950 pilots total
#3319 4/18 BOS 320 CA
#2898 6/16 BOS 320 SQ CA
#3044 2/17 EWR 320 CA
#2387 4/14 FLL 320 CA
#3281 3/18 JFK 320 CA
#2753 10/15 JFK 320 SQ CA
#2839 3/16 LAX 320 CA
#1553 1/08 MCO 320 CA
#3468 1/19 BOS 223 CA
#2725 8/15 JFK 223 CA
#4884 4/23 BOS 190 CA
Found the answer. 04/23 hire, will be Capt effective 03/24.
Last edited by Bluedriver; 07-13-2023 at 12:30 PM.
07-19-2023, 01:19 AM
#1987
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 244
And they’ll hold that position until they enter first officer training on another fleet that summer or fall. At this point upgrade times shouldn’t include the e90, it’s gone in 1.5 years and will be reduced to a dozen jets by Christmas next year.
07-19-2023, 03:18 AM
#1988
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,551
The company approached the union this week about offering voluntary leave lines through the trough months.
We are overstaffed. I wouldn’t be shocked at all if they are accelerating the 190 departures now that the NEA is gone.
We are overstaffed. I wouldn’t be shocked at all if they are accelerating the 190 departures now that the NEA is gone.
07-19-2023, 04:45 AM
#1989
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,920
I understand the NEA is gone, but it's sad they can't find other uses for the planes and pilots in this HISTORIC high demand and low supply of air travel capacity. Even considering the troughs. Non-rev during the troughs in recent years has still not been fun.
07-19-2023, 05:26 AM
#1990
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2009
Posts: 631
Wont be overstaffed for long…we stop growth and movement the rats will be running to Delta faster than mgmt running away from LSC during a meltdown
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