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Old 08-31-2022, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by I was inverted
December 2022 effective date 220 CA upgrades who were supposed to start training in the next week or two got notified yesterday their effective date is pushed to March also.
How does that work? By effective date you mean their training date? I could be wrong but isn't it the companies responsibility to get you trained by you effective date? If not you stay in you seat and just get paid? If the company is just changing their effective date, well what is the point of even having and effective date?
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Old 08-31-2022, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by feltf4
How does that work? By effective date you mean their training date? I could be wrong but isn't it the companies responsibility to get you trained by you effective date? If not you stay in you seat and just get paid? If the company is just changing their effective date, well what is the point of even having and effective date?
24.E.5…if delay is outside company control (they’ll win that argument) they can delay a vacancy bid effective date 90 days and that’s when they’ll get paid the new rate unless they are trained earlier, then it’s OE completion. Unless, a junior pilot finishes training that was awarded the position with the same effective date, then the pilot will get his new rate when said junior pilot finishes training.
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Old 08-31-2022, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by avi8orco
24.E.5…if delay is outside company control (they’ll win that argument) they can delay a vacancy bid effective date 90 days and that’s when they’ll get paid the new rate unless they are trained earlier, then it’s OE completion. Unless, a junior pilot finishes training that was awarded the position with the same effective date, then the pilot will get his new rate when said junior pilot finishes training.
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Old 08-31-2022, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by feltf4
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Company is good at chess... All the time...
I imagine it's a fairly standard contract provision.
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Old 08-31-2022, 02:17 PM
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How long are folks waiting for class dates after an offer has been made?
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Old 08-31-2022, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by golfbum971
How long are folks waiting for class dates after an offer has been made?
When I got my class date email a couple weeks ago the 2 dates offered were both 13, and 20 days later. I opted for a later class due to personal commitments, but it seems like once you get your class date email you could be in class within 2-3 weeks.
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Old 09-03-2022, 03:04 AM
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Last class drop posted was for the 8/10 class. Anyone have the more recent class drops ?
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Old 09-03-2022, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by avi8orco
24.E.5…if delay is outside company control (they’ll win that argument) they can delay a vacancy bid effective date 90 days and that’s when they’ll get paid the new rate unless they are trained earlier, then it’s OE completion. Unless, a junior pilot finishes training that was awarded the position with the same effective date, then the pilot will get his new rate when said junior pilot finishes training.
Is there a chance the company agreed to a delivery delay in a broader deal with Airbus to improve the terms of their orders? In other words, there is a greater than zero chance the delays are something other than Airbus saying point blank the planes aren't coming on schedule. In which case it would have been within their control.
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Old 09-03-2022, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by disenchantMINT
Is there a chance the company agreed to a delivery delay in a broader deal with Airbus to improve the terms of their orders? In other words, there is a greater than zero chance the delays are something other than Airbus saying point blank the planes aren't coming on schedule. In which case it would have been within their control.
That's a deal that would never be disclosed. That would be all NDA. You can speculate though.
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Old 09-03-2022, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Jab359
Last class drop posted was for the 8/10 class. Anyone have the more recent class drops ?
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