Class Drops
07-27-2022, 11:38 AM
#1471
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Joined APC: Nov 2005
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Class Drops
It’s 100% right. I would post all the names but this probably isn’t the right place for that.
173 for the year
July will break a JB single month record and we have already exceeded our previous 1 year record and it’s only July.
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07-30-2022, 02:10 PM
#1472
Line Holder
Joined APC: Nov 2019
Posts: 75
Commuter here. Have a class date in August and have a few questions on bidding/training schedules or backups.
I know that the 190 has the shorter reserve time, but what is the training footprint looking like/any training backups/etc....on the 190? With the 190 ops starting to draw down over the next year or two, is it actually smart to voluntarily bid into the the 190 when things are starting to draw down?
On the 320 side, assuming a year or maybe more on reserve? Any training delays?
I've seen the "there's no reason for a new hire to bid the 320 out of training" comments, but at some point that's going to change as the 190s are being phased out. Wondering if that time is now or is it still the wise move to take the 190 out of the gate and then transition over to the 320 once the 190s go away.
I know that the 190 has the shorter reserve time, but what is the training footprint looking like/any training backups/etc....on the 190? With the 190 ops starting to draw down over the next year or two, is it actually smart to voluntarily bid into the the 190 when things are starting to draw down?
On the 320 side, assuming a year or maybe more on reserve? Any training delays?
I've seen the "there's no reason for a new hire to bid the 320 out of training" comments, but at some point that's going to change as the 190s are being phased out. Wondering if that time is now or is it still the wise move to take the 190 out of the gate and then transition over to the 320 once the 190s go away.
07-30-2022, 02:59 PM
#1473
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jul 2022
Posts: 20
two friends of mine (less than a year seniority) recently told me they credit insane amount of hours every month and short reserve time on the 190. By the time those are fully gone we’ll be senior enough for a comfortable transition. Not as much flying/credit on the 320 for a new hire. So I say not a bad choice to bid 190, probably more money and better qol for a new hire than 320 specially for commuters but I would love to hear more opinions on that, I’m on the same boat.
07-30-2022, 04:07 PM
#1474
Covfefe
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 3,001
190 flying is decreasing significantly. I wouldn’t bid it at this point. The days of unlimited premium and super fast seniority improvement are gone for now. Movement is slowing as numbers are decreasing. The bid in 2 days will show how much it’s going away in the next 18 months.
07-30-2022, 04:31 PM
#1475
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2018
Position: First Officer
Posts: 128
Commuter here. Have a class date in August and have a few questions on bidding/training schedules or backups.
I know that the 190 has the shorter reserve time, but what is the training footprint looking like/any training backups/etc....on the 190? With the 190 ops starting to draw down over the next year or two, is it actually smart to voluntarily bid into the the 190 when things are starting to draw down?
On the 320 side, assuming a year or maybe more on reserve? Any training delays?
I've seen the "there's no reason for a new hire to bid the 320 out of training" comments, but at some point that's going to change as the 190s are being phased out. Wondering if that time is now or is it still the wise move to take the 190 out of the gate and then transition over to the 320 once the 190s go away.
I know that the 190 has the shorter reserve time, but what is the training footprint looking like/any training backups/etc....on the 190? With the 190 ops starting to draw down over the next year or two, is it actually smart to voluntarily bid into the the 190 when things are starting to draw down?
On the 320 side, assuming a year or maybe more on reserve? Any training delays?
I've seen the "there's no reason for a new hire to bid the 320 out of training" comments, but at some point that's going to change as the 190s are being phased out. Wondering if that time is now or is it still the wise move to take the 190 out of the gate and then transition over to the 320 once the 190s go away.
The 190 flying is shrinking more and more each month… people in my class that bid the 220 have lines and i’m still on reserve for August, maybe even September. The premium flying is going down and reserve times are increasing on the 190… you may be better off going with the 320 or 220 at this point.
07-31-2022, 05:04 AM
#1476
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: Left
Posts: 1,823
Some new hires are getting picked off by the big 4 while waiting for IOE.
08-31-2022, 08:14 AM
#1480
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Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 432
December 2022 effective date 220 CA upgrades who were supposed to start training in the next week or two got notified yesterday their effective date is pushed to March also.
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