An Open Letter to the Boys of B6
#111
Time to do a little rereading there JV. Take the blinders off, think outside of the box just a little. So using your own logic, they should join the club just because of those who went before them. This is not an agency shop argument. I support the concept of agency shop 100%.
But you are using this agency shop argument for those that either don't want a union on their property, they have been burned by unions in the past, or they are getting what they want through whatever means with their managment. And if this raises YOUR bar, you're complaining?
What I would like to know, is how many B6 pilots were former union members, and if it is a majority, why until now has there been no big push for a union. They should all know the "benefits" of what a union is capable of.
Again, reread some of my posts on this subject. I am in no way anti-union or anti collective bargaining. But if you have a brain cell in that junior varsity brain of yours, you will realize all your flamming, name calling, scab bomb throwing does nothing but show what in the boardrooms, that will be negotiating with YOU (representatives), the thinking will be on how to negotiate with immature union koolaid drinking pilots. I can also give you history where an airline union took such a hardcore stand on wages for a new aircraft (to prove a point) that in the final analysis the airline took less than half of the options for the wide bodied aircraft that they had optioned. Of course you will say, that's the excuse they give. First hand knowledge there bud.
So instead of engaging in rational thinking, just keep calling these guys scabs, guilty of scab thinking, not real pilots, wear sh@$ty uniforms, not professionals etc etc etc etc. So when your union calls for an SOS or such for some grievance the B6 pilots, VX, Skybus, EOS, MaxJet, etal, will just keep on flying. Shouldn't matter to you since they aren't "real pilots" anyway.
And a direct question, asked of you and Major Greenface, who are your employers? If you have the nads to call these guys scabs, have the cajones to say what proud union airline you fly for. Be proud of the fact that ABC airline is union and show your union label.
But you are using this agency shop argument for those that either don't want a union on their property, they have been burned by unions in the past, or they are getting what they want through whatever means with their managment. And if this raises YOUR bar, you're complaining?
What I would like to know, is how many B6 pilots were former union members, and if it is a majority, why until now has there been no big push for a union. They should all know the "benefits" of what a union is capable of.
Again, reread some of my posts on this subject. I am in no way anti-union or anti collective bargaining. But if you have a brain cell in that junior varsity brain of yours, you will realize all your flamming, name calling, scab bomb throwing does nothing but show what in the boardrooms, that will be negotiating with YOU (representatives), the thinking will be on how to negotiate with immature union koolaid drinking pilots. I can also give you history where an airline union took such a hardcore stand on wages for a new aircraft (to prove a point) that in the final analysis the airline took less than half of the options for the wide bodied aircraft that they had optioned. Of course you will say, that's the excuse they give. First hand knowledge there bud.
So instead of engaging in rational thinking, just keep calling these guys scabs, guilty of scab thinking, not real pilots, wear sh@$ty uniforms, not professionals etc etc etc etc. So when your union calls for an SOS or such for some grievance the B6 pilots, VX, Skybus, EOS, MaxJet, etal, will just keep on flying. Shouldn't matter to you since they aren't "real pilots" anyway.
And a direct question, asked of you and Major Greenface, who are your employers? If you have the nads to call these guys scabs, have the cajones to say what proud union airline you fly for. Be proud of the fact that ABC airline is union and show your union label.
#112
I have had it with your immature flamming. The only way he could have gotten his twenty year pin is to have been a member in good standing, paid all assesments, paid every cent of dues, and at twenty years has paid higher dues to the MCF and backed all contract negotiations with whatever was required.
What the hell have you contibuted other than name calling? Or is that your only union resume...Dude. "Hey, I'm a good union member, I call JetBlue pilots names, what a professional I are."
The only thing worse than ignorance is arrogant ignorance.
What the hell have you contibuted other than name calling? Or is that your only union resume...Dude. "Hey, I'm a good union member, I call JetBlue pilots names, what a professional I are."
The only thing worse than ignorance is arrogant ignorance.
#113
I have had it with your immature flamming. The only way he could have gotten his twenty year pin is to have been a member in good standing, paid all assesments, paid every cent of dues, and at twenty years has paid higher dues to the MCF and backed all contract negotiations with whatever was required.
What the hell have you contibuted other than name calling? Or is that your only union resume...Dude. "Hey, I'm a good union member, I call JetBlue pilots names, what a professional I are."
The only thing worse than ignorance is arrogant ignorance.
What the hell have you contibuted other than name calling? Or is that your only union resume...Dude. "Hey, I'm a good union member, I call JetBlue pilots names, what a professional I are."
The only thing worse than ignorance is arrogant ignorance.
#114
"I have had it with your immature flamming"
I have too.
The last few posts show the great contrast between a person who can do no better than be a condescending flamer and another with a well reasoned, well said, differing viewpoint.
Skyone, thanks for taking the high road.
I have too.
The last few posts show the great contrast between a person who can do no better than be a condescending flamer and another with a well reasoned, well said, differing viewpoint.
Skyone, thanks for taking the high road.
#117
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