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Old 02-09-2018, 05:12 PM
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Oh hello Joanna, how can I help you?

- I was told by _____ you didn't help clean yesterday on your commute home

Are there quotas on how many seats I need to clean?

- No

Do you want me to block the aisle slowing down the deplaning customers?

- No

Well by the time all the customers got off the airplane all the other morons, that get in the way, finished cleaning the plane

-Well, I wouldn't call them morons

Well someone has brainwashed them to think it's professional to start cleaning the plane once the door opens. That's right , we're done with these customers once we get to _____, who cares if there's someone saying goodbye. It's all about turning the airplane in the ridiculously allotted time.

Is it not true that FA#1 has to stay in the front galley until all the customers get off?

- Yes

How often do you think that happens?

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-Do your seat, maybe the aisle, and get out....you f'n "cleaned"-

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Old 02-09-2018, 07:08 PM
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Maybe their union should collaborate with our union so we stop this snitch system JB wants. Remember when they paid customers to snitch on FAs? JB MBAs know the tactic of divide and conquer. Turn labor groups against each other. Maybe they should be resisting more instead of viewing us as the enemy.
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Old 02-09-2018, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by queue
Maybe their union should collaborate with our union so we stop this snitch system JB wants. Remember when they paid customers to snitch on FAs? JB MBAs know the tactic of divide and conquer. Turn labor groups against each other. Maybe they should be resisting more instead of viewing us as the enemy.

Wouldn’t they need a union first?
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Old 02-09-2018, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
Wouldn’t they need a union first?
just a matter of time according to every FA I speak to.
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Old 02-11-2018, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by pugpilot
just a matter of time according to every FA I speak to.
Why hasn't that voted happened yet?
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Old 02-11-2018, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
Why hasn't that voted happened yet?
announcement on the 15th, obviously.
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Old 02-11-2018, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by queue
Maybe their union should collaborate with our union so we stop this snitch system JB wants. Remember when they paid customers to snitch on FAs? JB MBAs know the tactic of divide and conquer. Turn labor groups against each other. Maybe they should be resisting more instead of viewing us as the enemy.
We have our own pilots snitching on each other. How could this possibly work???

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Old 02-12-2018, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
Why hasn't that voted happened yet?
The only explanation I’ve heard has been related to the chaos created by potential/actual government shutdowns. Seems like a weak excuse, but we’re talking about federal employees, so why would that surprise me?
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Old 02-12-2018, 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by slimothy
The only explanation I’ve heard has been related to the chaos created by potential/actual government shutdowns. Seems like a weak excuse, but we’re talking about federal employees, so why would that surprise me?
The federal government just shut down last week. It was only for a few hours, but no one knew how long it could have lasted.

Now, imagine that a union vote is happening during a shutdown. The NMB is not essential and furloughs all of its employees. What happens if there's any type of problem during the vote? Who's there to monitor the situation and determine what happened, why, and who if anyone committed any wrongdoing?

It sucks that the uncertainty of government funding has had a negative impact on the FAs union vote, but considering the amount of shenanigans the company could have tried to pull with no oversight makes the NMB crucial to ensuring a fair vote occurs.
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Old 02-12-2018, 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluetruth
In that pocket session it was said they have no plans to hire cleaners and are keeping the blue turn. They also said they calculate turn times assuming non-revs will be on board and helping to clean (read that sentence again and let it sink in). We all know many times (non-FA) non-revs just walk off. So quick turns and more cleaning for just the FAs.

So unfortunately! The FA's will have to be voting that Union in, since the direct relationship means a lifetime of plane cleaning at per diem pay rate.

And I'm sorry, expecting us to become informants or supervisors of who cleans and who does not clean is just another responsibility or task at that same $2.15 a hour per diem rate. No thanks!

Who is really destroying the culture?
So they plan on non revs being on board every flight?
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