say again

So what? It's not in our job description. You want to be "scared" into cleaning the plane, then that's on you.

Rascal

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BlueJetDork

Using your pass riding benefit requires you to clean.

Crew or DH there is no requirement.

The entire policy is a recipe for narks.

The narks don't realize though that a management that is interested in your information is equally interested in information on you.

Also and in general, leadership though spear in the back is a clear indication of a failed leadership team and culture that is ready to implode on itself.

queue

I think ALPA needs to use highlight "JetBlue culture" whenever possible. This EVP of Customer Experience needs to be fired ASAFP.

I have been quite disappointed with ALPA on this matter and I hope you guys don't give them any breathing room. 3+ yrs and lots of losses along the way.

pugpilot

JB does not like commuters and will do everything they can to hire people who can drive to work.

One example of their anti-commuter tendencies is the "if you are non-reving you have to clean the plane". I could ALMOST understand such a garbage policy if you were using non-rev for leisure travel, but NEVER for going to and from work.

"If you don't clean the plane you'll lose that benefit".
So what? The implied threat is that if I don't clean when I commute to work I'll lose my non-rev privileges and get fired as a result. God I love the JB Culture!

The trash that is our Reserve Work Rules is also designed to be unsustainable as a commuter. You'll be tempted to move to NY or New Hampshire to stay sane.

If you already live in the NE, it is better than a regional. That is not the standard we should be holding ourselves to.

Just remember, "You chose to commute!"

Xtreme87

Funny, I used to help the FA’s clean and cross seatbelts at my regional whenever I had time. Not because I had to, but because I wanted to help. Jump a few years later, JB has completely destroyed my desire to help and go beyond my work requirements with their culture. Funny how that works. Just speaks volumes about the work environment they have created here.

PasserOGas

I really dont know why ALPA hasnt filed a lawsuit about this. You are being asked to perform labor, under penalty of disciplinary action, with no pay and no labor protections. And before you say "But they gave you a free flight!", I will ask you are they abiding by minimum wage laws? What was the value of that flight? Whose state regulations apply? Remember its not just pilots. Some of the people being asked to work are normal hourly employees subject to their states labor protections, not the RLA. If you are injured (razors, needles, broken glass in the seat back) who is liable for that? What kind of training was provided? Who covers your medical? Does the PEA apply?

In other words, just WTF is taking ALPA so long to shut this nonsense down?

queue

ALPA hasn't done anything about it because they claim "they have bigger fish to fry". I have offered to "get on the case" but they have refused to let me act on behalf of ALPA (unsatisfactory replies from JB ALPA management and P2P and no interest in personally engaging me for a resolution). As you know, we pilots cannot sue JB because it ends in arbitration. The only thing ALPA has done is to file a grievance against not being paid for the "clean the airplane" training we had to take. This doesn't solve the root problem, which they are evading. The PEA is crap... you have no legal rights since you are being denied legal "due process" -- it ALWAYS ENDS IN ARBITRATION. JB is run by lawyers who know how to screw you. The PEA is an unacceptable "screw the pilots" false compromise.

Does anyone have the email or literature alluding to where JB initiated this draconian policy in order to save money on not hiring cleaners?

Xtreme87

You want to ask them that?

queue

As I said, I already have. Crickets.

I'm willing to re-engage them again but I expect a better result for 1.9% of my paycheck. I would feel far more gracious about the situation if they were a charity but they are taking money for services. It's just business.

(realized I'm answering for someone else but it still applies)