Originally Posted by sailingfun

They have tried in the past. You are fighting all the airlines and Boeing. They have huge pockets and purchase all the support they need in Congress. ALPA can legally only use PAC money for lobbying. We toss out pennies while they toss out hundred dollar bills. Most pilots can’t spare a dime for the PAC. In addition the entire purpose of the RLA is to prohibit interruptions of interstate commerce. WE can’t even get a congressman to draft legislation to amend the RLA let alone get into committee.
A few years ago we did manage to get a small amount of traction in removing Fedex from the RLA. Their aircraft purchase contracts with Boeing include a clause to cancel if FedEx is removed from the RLA. Boeing money killed this concept fast.
Our elected official respond to two things, money and votes to get re-elected. Helping super rich pilots out at the expense of higher ticket prices is not good for re-election and the amount of money the PAC has is laughable.

Originally Posted by Southerner

Without legal protection, the company can just fire anyone who participates in a job action. Agency shop will be illegal.

I agree that there are lots of anti-labor provisions in the RLA, but there are also things in there that allow the unions to exist in the first place.

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Originally Posted by queue

But obviously the performance is **** poor. JB likes it because they save millions and millions while raping pilots for years. ALPA likes it because it keeps them employed at 1.9%+. I hate it because it doesn't pay me what I'm worth.

Let's rewrite the RLA with all the same, and stronger protections, but with a timeline...

Am I understanding that you wouldn't agree to rewriting the RLA to make it better for us?

Originally Posted by Southerner

I didn't say that. Of course I'd like it to be written better. But that's not going to happen. There's too much money keeping the status quo.

What I do oppose is abolishing the RLA. That would be catastrophic. All airline unions would instantaneously become irrelevant.


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Originally Posted by Southerner

I didn't say that. Of course I'd like it to be written better. But that's not going to happen. There's too much money keeping the status quo.

What I do oppose is abolishing the RLA. That would be catastrophic. All airline unions would instantaneously become irrelevant.


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Originally Posted by BeatNavy

That’s rich...you want airline unions to protect your job, bargain for your contract, etc., but you won’t do the ONE thing the union asks you to do to support the cause and wear a lanyard. Or 2 things...since you weren’t at the picket. Saw lots of your lanyardless bro’s in BOS today. Some rocket surgeons here think the (unionized) Patriots are gonna negotiate their contract, instead of ALPA. Laughable! Wish you guys would all quit and go to a unionless airline. At least we proved that we have enough unified pipe hitters to pull your dead weight at these things. Hope you enjoy the contract the rest of us are working for, as you work against us.

Originally Posted by Southerner

You're doing a lot for unity with posts like that. Good job.

Originally Posted by BeatNavy

There is no unity with you. You’ve spoken. If you aren’t with us, you are against us.

Originally Posted by Southerner

You aren't listening. I'm with you, but I choose to not wear the stupid lanyard. It isn't gonna happen now, or ever. If I were a non member, or discouraged people from joining, you'd be correct. But I do not agree that there's only one way to show support. And I don't care if you disagree. It's really irrelevant.



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