Cape Air to JetBlue Gateway Program
11-24-2017, 11:51 AM
#61
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I have spent 10 years at the regionals and 2 years at JetBlue. A month after I started training at JetBlue my regional announced a guaranteed interview with United. Know what I know now, I would have never left. At this point I am almost considering leaving for a regionals with guaranteed flow-through to the real majors. It is a sad state of affairs at JetBlue as evidenced by this thread.
11-24-2017, 02:39 PM
#62
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I have spent 10 years at the regionals and 2 years at JetBlue. A month after I started training at JetBlue my regional announced a guaranteed interview with United. Know what I know now, I would have never left. At this point I am almost considering leaving for a regionals with guaranteed flow-through to the real majors. It is a sad state of affairs at JetBlue as evidenced by this thread.
11-24-2017, 07:32 PM
#64
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If you left right before the CPP was announced in Sping of 2016 and inside of ~700 on the seniority list you would have interviewed before fall 2016.
HPI pass rate then was terrible, face to face pass even more so.
IF your entire 10 years was XJT making you a 2006 XJT hire that would offset the above. Assuming you passed, you’d be looking at about a 10 months from now before class assuming BK’s hiring projection for 2018 stays on target. You could still beat that via off street selection and a statistically higher chance of being hired.
NOTHING is/was guaranteed on the CPP EXCEPT the HPI.
11-25-2017, 03:40 AM
#65
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I have spent 10 years at the regionals and 2 years at JetBlue. A month after I started training at JetBlue my regional announced a guaranteed interview with United. Know what I know now, I would have never left. At this point I am almost considering leaving for a regionals with guaranteed flow-through to the real majors. It is a sad state of affairs at JetBlue as evidenced by this thread.
I also regret the move to Jblu. Not a good move for any captain at an ok regional. Massive loss in QOL, medical, vacation, time off ..... it’ll take all of 3rd and 4th years pay to compensate 1st and 2nd year pay loss.
Unless the new CBA changes things, after those 4 years, you’ll still have worse benefits, worse hotels, less time off ......
So, the gamble is whether or not you believe you can get hired at a real major from your regional within 5 years.
Not sure why Southerner thinks JB is so good.
Last edited by IrishNJ; 11-25-2017 at 04:01 AM.
11-25-2017, 07:16 AM
#66
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So because this place has nosedived in QOL and relative pay I should stay and sing its praises? In this environment, right now B6 is a stepping stone. There are better stepping stones than B6 to serve that purpose. If you are here 10 years from now as a new hire you will have made much less than your peers who leave for a real airline. You will have failed.
This doesnt apply to current Capts, newhires only.
This doesnt apply to current Capts, newhires only.
11-25-2017, 07:41 AM
#67
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Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
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100% agree.
I also regret the move to Jblu. Not a good move for any captain at an ok regional. Massive loss in QOL, medical, vacation, time off ..... it’ll take all of 3rd and 4th years pay to compensate 1st and 2nd year pay loss.
Unless the new CBA changes things, after those 4 years, you’ll still have worse benefits, worse hotels, less time off ......
So, the gamble is whether or not you believe you can get hired at a real major from your regional within 5 years.
Not sure why Southerner thinks JB is so good.
I also regret the move to Jblu. Not a good move for any captain at an ok regional. Massive loss in QOL, medical, vacation, time off ..... it’ll take all of 3rd and 4th years pay to compensate 1st and 2nd year pay loss.
Unless the new CBA changes things, after those 4 years, you’ll still have worse benefits, worse hotels, less time off ......
So, the gamble is whether or not you believe you can get hired at a real major from your regional within 5 years.
Not sure why Southerner thinks JB is so good.
"Unless the new CBA changes things, after those 4 years, you’ll still have worse benefits, worse hotels, less time off ......"
Man if you don't think a CBA will change all of this I don't know what to tell you.
11-25-2017, 08:36 AM
#68
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I doubt things are going to change much. Most of the Captains I fly with are just fine with the way things are and managment knows it. As matter of fact, I just finished a trip with a guy that was very surprised that a Delta FO makes more than he does. He did not believe me until I showed him the pay scale and even then he came up with excuses to why it's better at Jetblue.
11-25-2017, 08:42 AM
#69
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Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
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I doubt things are going to change much. Most of the Captains I fly with are just fine with the way things are and managment knows it. As matter of fact I just finished a trip with a guy that was very surprised that a Delta FO makes more than he does. He did not believe until I showed him the pay scale and even then he came up with excuses to why it's better at Jetblue.
If that is the case I am really wasting my money.
Last edited by pilotpayne; 11-25-2017 at 08:53 AM.
11-25-2017, 09:55 AM
#70
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Even if we get a decent contract the fact still remains that the top position here is A320 Captain and very little growth. If you are an FO you most likely you have to wait another 15 years before you can hold weekends off as A320 Captain in JFK, forget about MCO or LGB. If you are Captain at regional with a chance to flow to a real Major don't make the mistake that I made.
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