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I'm middle of the list and in the last year I have moved less than 300 numbers. Most of the 30-40/month we are loosing are from training.

alaskadrifter

From Skywest or Horizon? From failing out or going elsewhere?

Phteven

30-40 per month that are...washing out? going to other regional carriers?

I wonder if Skywest will fare better through the applicant shortage than most regionals. Nonetheless, Skywest will likely have staffing issues in the coming years just everyone else. AAG must know that and realize they would have no control of the outcome of that. If AAG had 45 E175's at Skywest, 32 Q400's at Horizon, that would mean 16-20% of the total AAG fleet would be outsourced to Skywest. Skywest can't throw money at the problem like AAG could with Horizon since Skywest is tied to contracts with low margins as it is. If the infrastructure was there at Horizon because they already operated E175's - wouldn't AAG would have a better handle on the situation? When Horizon has staffing problems, they'll try to throw money at it, but always have the "flow" wildcard if things get really bad.

Don't get me wrong, this is all still BAD NEWS for any new hires because they won't be flying the jet anyway and this isn't even growth (at least not for several years). Not saying that AAG wants to hold Horizon in their warm and loving arms - no doubt they are bean counters. I just think there is more at stake than just money here.

Jet87

Skywest is losing 30-40 and month. About ten of those are right from training, it's probably a close mix of guys failing vs leaving for somewhere else.
In the month of September we will have hired around 110

NVUS

SkyWest Airlines margin last quarter was 10.55%. I don't think that would be considered "low."

disillusioned

SkyWest has lost about 350 pilots YTD. I am close to the middle and there has been about 150 or so ahead of me. So we are losing more from the bottom than the top. We were losing a bunch from training, but that has slowed down over the last month or two. YTD we are about 16% from training (57)

Phteven

Why is Skywest losing so many to other carriers? Upgrade times? 16% lost from training seems pretty bad, but I imagine that is more or less the new normal.

Phteven

My point is, since Skywest is a real CPA carrier (unlike Horizon), they have contractual obligations that aren't as easy to amend as it would be for a wholly-owned carrier, right?

Not saying that is the end all be all in the matter. It would just seem in AAG's best interest to spread that flying out to create some buffer and regional competition just like every other major carrier is doing.

Jet87

The majority of the time it's a military guy coming in to get current and leaves to a Major. I don't think we are losing to many new hires to other regional cariers.

Captyeager

where would the q400's go?