Columbia

Actually, it appears members from the Virgin Group and Branson don't really know what they are going to do regarding making money. It seems like it's one excuse after another.
Bottom line is the majority of the American flying public will only buy the cheapest fares. The majority of business travelers buy tickets on the best networks with top notch FF programs with more seats in F (versus 8).

RJtrashPilot

Oh.

filler filler

Moby Dick

Once again, a lot of sturm und drang from the "true believers." But not one word about how they justify flying A320s for RJ wages.

Nothing but crickets.

PasserOGas

Can you put a price on hot FA's?

Moby Dick

They're not getting those either!

Everyone knows the hot F/As command better partners than pilots.

PasserOGas

Withdrawing app now...

Columbia

Hey, it IS San Francisco. Not that there's anything wrong with it.

atooraya

Oh look, if it isn't APC's favorite ignorant troll. Consistently spewing out false information to make himself feel better. Can you please point out where VX pilots make RJ wages? Or does it just tickle your fancy to keep living in a bubble full of your own lies, to inflate your own ego.


Go on ignoring when people post facts, and live in your angry, bitter little world.

Moby Dick

Ref: Airline pilot Central pay grid, 5 year VX CA.

If that's wrong, you should correct it. Currently, there are ZERO pilots earning top of the scale pay and the first one won't achieve that for at least another 6 years.

That's a fact. As the saying goes..."Everyone is entitled to their opinion. They are not entitled to their own facts."

ShyGuy

How does that compare with 5th year CA pay at other A320 airlines? It's in the ballpark for Frontier, Spirit, Allegiant. Look at US Airways Captain rates, 12 year top out at $125/HR, which is much lower than VX. Are you crying about that? Why aren't you accusing USAPA of flying Airbuses at "RJ wages."

And before the recent United TA, their A320 FOs were topped out at 94/HR and CAs at 137/HR. When VX came about, or within it's first year if operation, everyone was operating concessionary contracts. Only recently did Delta and United/Continental start making improvements back to what it used to be.

VX isn't perfect, it could use an improvement in the compensation package, and with time it will. But it's a far cry to say it's RJ wages when you haven't looked at the rest of the A320 airlines and their histories since 2006.

And btw, just because VX started flying in 2007 doesn't mean our pilots have only been around since 2007. There are pre-launch guys who have been around a lot longer and get their respective longevity pay on the ladder.