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Old 02-08-2010, 01:13 PM
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Old 02-08-2010, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 3GreenKSNA
They must use an interesting method for selecting interviewees.
My nephew was called. 1400TT, CFI, 150 multi.

Makes me wonder if I would have a shot. 5000TT, 1700TPIC, 3500 Part 121, 2 type ratings.
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So...you're saying that the "unqualified" pilots who make it through the interview and through training, and who have more experience than almost everyone hired in '07 and '08 at the time of hire who are still flying on the line, are just automatically unqualified? The same pilots who have been hand flying holds and instrument approaches one after another for the last 3 years instead of letting the autopilot do it (and draw it) for them? The same ones that are instrument current, as opposed to the furloughed 121 guys who haven't flown in over a year? i'm confused.
I didn't say unqualified I said your gonna feel underqualifed. When you're at 5000 feet on a downwind doing 250 knots and they clear you for the visual you will feel overwhelmed and not know what to do. And by the way usually the autopilot comes off unless you wanna be a pansy about it. It takes a couple months to get the hang of it. I'm sure the ioe captains will appreciate previous 121 pilots better because they don't have to take the controls. Not saying I'm a super pilot, we all have to learn at some point. But I also believe the best qualified should get the job. In 07 500 hours were some of the best qualifed. Now we have people with thousands of hours on the streets while CFI's are getting hired.
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I didn't say unqualified I said your gonna feel underqualifed. When you're at 5000 feet on a downwind doing 250 knots and they clear you for the visual you will feel overwhelmed and not know what to do. And by the way usually the autopilot comes off unless you wanna be a pansy about it. It takes a couple months to get the hang of it. I'm sure the ioe captains will appreciate previous 121 pilots better because they don't have to take the controls. Not saying I'm a super pilot, we all have to learn at some point. But I also believe the best qualified should get the job. In 07 500 hours were some of the best qualifed. Now we have people with thousands of hours on the streets while CFI's are getting hired.
I disagree. "Underqualified" and being "new" to something are completely different things. Of course a person with little to no experience in a jet is going to be a little nervous or possibly overwhelmed on their early landings, but this doesn't mean they are "underqualified." By your logic, a person who doesn't know how to cook a burger and enter orders into the computer at a fast food restaurant is "underqualified" - after all, they've never done it before, right? I am new to jets myself, and my first landing was a little nerve racking/exciting, but I never felt underqualified for being there.

The underqualified person would be the one who is unable to learn the new skills of flying a jet.

Does anybody know how many recruiters Eagle has? I just wondered if everything went through CC or if individual recruiters had any leeway in their decision making.
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Does anyone know the overall progress of hiring? Originally they said they were going to hire between 100 and 150. Does anyone know how many have been hired? Or at least, offered to be hired?
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I find it all pretty unbelieveable, and I'm probably killing my chances at a job here, but seriously, why hire CFI's with 1400 hours and 150 multi all in piston over the guys with 121 experience, type ratings, etc???

I have over 2000TT, 1200 Multi, 1100 Turbine, 121 exp, last 12 months with a flying job, and an EMB-145 SIC Type, full currency and an internal recommendation. Haven't heard squat while the less qualified are getting calls. Any theories?

An ex 121 guy with lots of experience is far more likely to succeed in training and is a better pilot once out on the line, due to EXPERIENCE! This has ALWAYS been a proven fact, and this is why you have to have MORE flight time to fly for a major. The cream of the crop should get picked first, right?! Not so with Eagle HR evidently, and it confuses me.
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Originally Posted by paxhauler85
My nephew was called. 1400TT, CFI, 150 multi.

Makes me wonder if I would have a shot. 5000TT, 1700TPIC, 3500 Part 121, 2 type ratings.

did you get furloughed also?
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Originally Posted by banja12
I find it all pretty unbelieveable, and I'm probably killing my chances at a job here, but seriously, why hire CFI's with 1400 hours and 150 multi all in piston over the guys with 121 experience, type ratings, etc???

I have over 2000TT, 1200 Multi, 1100 Turbine, 121 exp, last 12 months with a flying job, and an EMB-145 SIC Type, full currency and an internal recommendation. Haven't heard squat while the less qualified are getting calls. Any theories?

An ex 121 guy with lots of experience is far more likely to succeed in training and is a better pilot once out on the line, due to EXPERIENCE! This has ALWAYS been a proven fact, and this is why you have to have MORE flight time to fly for a major. The cream of the crop should get picked first, right?! Not so with Eagle HR evidently, and it confuses me.
Hey Banja, all I can tell you is that I have pretty much the same times you do, and I got called. I do know that my internal rec was persistent at calling and talking to whoever he had to so that I could get a shot. Maybe whoever you know there can make some more calls? I do agree though, that without an internal rec, it's pretty tough to get called right now.
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Originally Posted by banja12
I find it all pretty unbelieveable, and I'm probably killing my chances at a job here, but seriously, why hire CFI's with 1400 hours and 150 multi all in piston over the guys with 121 experience, type ratings, etc???

I have over 2000TT, 1200 Multi, 1100 Turbine, 121 exp, last 12 months with a flying job, and an EMB-145 SIC Type, full currency and an internal recommendation. Haven't heard squat while the less qualified are getting calls. Any theories?

An ex 121 guy with lots of experience is far more likely to succeed in training and is a better pilot once out on the line, due to EXPERIENCE! This has ALWAYS been a proven fact, and this is why you have to have MORE flight time to fly for a major. The cream of the crop should get picked first, right?! Not so with Eagle HR evidently, and it confuses me.
Has your internal called HR and talked to CC,KD or CZ?
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Old 02-08-2010, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by be76flyer
Has your internal called HR and talked to CC,KD or CZ?
He's left several messages, can't get his phone calls returned. :-(
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