American Eagle to hire
#731
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I do not understand why people on web boards have such a hard time with the correct spelling of ridiculous. It weakens your argument when you do not check your spelling.
How do you know Sully was not complaining about making $200 in 1980? He was complaining in 2009 about having to have two jobs. Most first year regional pilots can count on no more than $19,000 for the first year. I made under that for a full year of work. Adjusted for inflation $200 in 1980 is about $34,000 today. Are you making an argument that pilots are properly paid? Are you arguing that pilots don't make what they use to? I am confused because you say one thing but include numbers that are in direct contradiction to what you are saying.
How do you know Sully was not complaining about making $200 in 1980? He was complaining in 2009 about having to have two jobs. Most first year regional pilots can count on no more than $19,000 for the first year. I made under that for a full year of work. Adjusted for inflation $200 in 1980 is about $34,000 today. Are you making an argument that pilots are properly paid? Are you arguing that pilots don't make what they use to? I am confused because you say one thing but include numbers that are in direct contradiction to what you are saying.
That error lies with the reader.
Maybe Sully did complain, but in his book he implies the opposite. I suppose I can assume he was lying like you apparently are. I'm not making any argument other then it would be nice if a probationary new-hire position on a 50-seat aircraft paid $50,000/year, but that's not reality and likely never will be. What "most" other regional pilots can count on in their first year is meaningless as my post was about AMERICAN EAGLE pay, but your ridiculous distraction with spelling has caused you to miss this.
I think if you spent more time on content instead of nitpicking errors you'd be a little less confused.
#732
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He's just trying to justify the low pay for us so there's no revolt against senior pilots like him that makes $130K/yr. The pay disparity is just criminal. FOs have been subsidizing his income for years and he doesn't want it to stop so he's trying to convince everyone how it's not so bad.
You're going to "revolt" and change things ?
Interesting.
The pay is what it is and always has been that way. I wish it were different. I started just like you, but neither me nor any of my fellow pilots then (now senior) whined and complained like so many of the pilots of today.
Since it's not likely to change and you seem so miserable, perhaps it's time for you to resign and head over to the unlimited potential of Chick-Fil-A like Mason advocates ?
It seems to me this profession isn't making you happy.
Last edited by eaglefly; 02-07-2010 at 07:40 PM.
#733
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I made a post of some factual information to help, but it's tough to provide facts with these types of characters insisting on hijacking this thread for their own interests. We need to keep the topic about AE and providing factual information, not the everlasting complaints of low pay or senior pilot conspiracies that produce nothing of substance.
Last edited by eaglefly; 02-07-2010 at 07:48 PM.
#734
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 171
Agreed.
I made a post of some factual information to help, but it's tough to provide facts with these types of characters insisting on hijacking this thread for their own interests. We need to keep the topic about AE and providing factual information, not the everlasting complaints of low pay or senior pilot conspiracies that produce nothing of substance.
I made a post of some factual information to help, but it's tough to provide facts with these types of characters insisting on hijacking this thread for their own interests. We need to keep the topic about AE and providing factual information, not the everlasting complaints of low pay or senior pilot conspiracies that produce nothing of substance.
#735
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Position: ERJ Right
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For those of us that are on the outside looking in. As time wears on should one expect eagle to move from higher time interviewees to those with lower times.
I have about 1340 hours and if they did it right a couple of internal recommendations, current flight instructing job, yet still no call.
I have about 1340 hours and if they did it right a couple of internal recommendations, current flight instructing job, yet still no call.
#736
For those of us that are on the outside looking in. As time wears on should one expect eagle to move from higher time interviewees to those with lower times.
I have about 1340 hours and if they did it right a couple of internal recommendations, current flight instructing job, yet still no call.
I have about 1340 hours and if they did it right a couple of internal recommendations, current flight instructing job, yet still no call.
#737
A question regarding medicals.... A first class is required at Eagle, but does that include at the time of application as well?
I am currently sitting on a Second turned third class and submitted my app just a few days ago. Should I make the appointment to get my first class medical asap or is it not nescessary until I am hired (theoretically)? Is there a way for me to update that info on my application to Eagle that has already been submitted through airlineapps.com?
Another question, sorry if this is old:
My current times are 1060TT 120 multi with about 53 of that being turbine time. I have a number of people at American and Delta which I put down as "references" on airlineapps who are also writing me letters of reccomendation for if/when I get called.. I also have a buddy who is an FO at Eagle who says has given my name to CC.
What are my chances?
I am currently sitting on a Second turned third class and submitted my app just a few days ago. Should I make the appointment to get my first class medical asap or is it not nescessary until I am hired (theoretically)? Is there a way for me to update that info on my application to Eagle that has already been submitted through airlineapps.com?
Another question, sorry if this is old:
My current times are 1060TT 120 multi with about 53 of that being turbine time. I have a number of people at American and Delta which I put down as "references" on airlineapps who are also writing me letters of reccomendation for if/when I get called.. I also have a buddy who is an FO at Eagle who says has given my name to CC.
What are my chances?
#738
A question regarding medicals.... A first class is required at Eagle, but does that include at the time of application as well?
I am currently sitting on a Second turned third class and submitted my app just a few days ago. Should I make the appointment to get my first class medical asap or is it not nescessary until I am hired (theoretically)? Is there a way for me to update that info on my application to Eagle that has already been submitted through airlineapps.com?
I am currently sitting on a Second turned third class and submitted my app just a few days ago. Should I make the appointment to get my first class medical asap or is it not nescessary until I am hired (theoretically)? Is there a way for me to update that info on my application to Eagle that has already been submitted through airlineapps.com?
What I'm trying to say is that AE looks for all the little things to see how much effort you are putting into this job interview process. At a time like this when they have tons of applications you really need to do everything to stand out (in a good way) as an eligible professional candidate. If you half-ass it then they probably wont hire you.
#739
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I have 2150 tt and 1600 in the jet. They haven't called me. Obviously they don't care about flight time since they've been hiring people w/o 121 experience. I susptect most have internal recs. Those with 121 experience know you're qualified. Those without, you'll know you're underqualified during you're first or second flight. Especially when "cleared for the visual." Good luck.
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