American Eagle to hire
02-07-2010, 05:49 AM
#711
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You guys/gals that have been waiting for a class date should just sit back and chill. You may or may not come aboard right away, but you're still coming. We need more FO's because we're gonna need more Captains. AMR/EGL/AA are working out (as always) some issues, so there is a lot going on right now.
So just chill and be patient. Like someone previously posted, you could get a very short notice call.
So just chill and be patient. Like someone previously posted, you could get a very short notice call.
02-07-2010, 05:52 AM
#712
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Seems pretty cut and dry to me. If it was an evaluation then the answer is yes.
02-07-2010, 07:27 AM
#713
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Sorry if this is off topic, but when filling out the "Disclosure of FAA record and training events", how did you answer the question,
"Have you received an unsatisfactory evaluation during any pilot training, testing or checking event?"
Would this be anything during training including flights with an instructor?
ex. Having to do extra flights to get within PTS before a check ride.
Not sure exactly what it means because it is separate from the failed check ride question.
Thanks for the help!
"Have you received an unsatisfactory evaluation during any pilot training, testing or checking event?"
Would this be anything during training including flights with an instructor?
ex. Having to do extra flights to get within PTS before a check ride.
Not sure exactly what it means because it is separate from the failed check ride question.
Thanks for the help!
02-07-2010, 09:14 AM
#714
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Let's see: Chick-Fil-A pays $8 an hour. No benefits. 8x40 hours= $320 a week. No vacation, so $320x52=$16640
Last time I checked $22,500 with benefits is more than $16640 without. People accept it because even if you make a carrer at Eagle, a $100k paycheck still isn't bad down the road.
Should the Regionals pay more, esecially first year, yes. Let's not gild the lilly on how bad it is.
Last time I checked $22,500 with benefits is more than $16640 without. People accept it because even if you make a carrer at Eagle, a $100k paycheck still isn't bad down the road.
Should the Regionals pay more, esecially first year, yes. Let's not gild the lilly on how bad it is.
It was a nice attempt to rationalize being paid slave wages....
02-07-2010, 09:40 AM
#715
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Sorry if this is off topic, but when filling out the "Disclosure of FAA record and training events", how did you answer the question,
"Have you received an unsatisfactory evaluation during any pilot training, testing or checking event?"
Would this be anything during training including flights with an instructor?
ex. Having to do extra flights to get within PTS before a check ride.
Not sure exactly what it means because it is separate from the failed check ride question.
Thanks for the help!
"Have you received an unsatisfactory evaluation during any pilot training, testing or checking event?"
Would this be anything during training including flights with an instructor?
ex. Having to do extra flights to get within PTS before a check ride.
Not sure exactly what it means because it is separate from the failed check ride question.
Thanks for the help!
02-07-2010, 09:42 AM
#716
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Posts: 101
02-07-2010, 10:07 AM
#717
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You are having fuzzy math problems.... as an FO you will be away from home up to 320 hours a month.... if you did that at the Chick-Fil-A place it would be 160 hours at 8 an hour and 160 at 12 an hour on overtime for a total of 3200 a month or 38.5k first year. You would also sleep in your own bed each day. Look at firefighters, do they only get paid when they are awake at the firehouse, or are they paid for all of their time, including while sleeping upstairs...
It was a nice attempt to rationalize being paid slave wages....
It was a nice attempt to rationalize being paid slave wages....
02-07-2010, 10:23 AM
#718
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Yes.........it reminds me of Vinny and his gal stuck in Alabama mud spinning their back wheel.
It's actually bending the facts to fit ones beliefs.
You could do nothing by day trips and be home every night like the cackle cooker at Chick-Fil-A and you'd be paid a per diem at the airline, but not at the chicken house.
The bottom line a new hire in the jet can expect a 75 hour guarantee on RSV @ 23K. If they get an average 300 hours/month perdiem that's about 6K for 29K to start (won't see this at fast food) and any OT they choose to get would add more $$$.
Roughly 30K/year, health and travel bennies is hardly a sweatshop. It's not the upper bracket, but this is starting probationary pay. Sully made $200/week when he started with PSA as a 727 F/E (at a major airline to boot) and although that was in 1980 dollars he wasn't whining about it, with rediculous claims and references to fast food.
Times haven't changed that much, but the quality of the people in it sure have............and not for the better.
It's actually bending the facts to fit ones beliefs.
You could do nothing by day trips and be home every night like the cackle cooker at Chick-Fil-A and you'd be paid a per diem at the airline, but not at the chicken house.
The bottom line a new hire in the jet can expect a 75 hour guarantee on RSV @ 23K. If they get an average 300 hours/month perdiem that's about 6K for 29K to start (won't see this at fast food) and any OT they choose to get would add more $$$.
Roughly 30K/year, health and travel bennies is hardly a sweatshop. It's not the upper bracket, but this is starting probationary pay. Sully made $200/week when he started with PSA as a 727 F/E (at a major airline to boot) and although that was in 1980 dollars he wasn't whining about it, with rediculous claims and references to fast food.
Times haven't changed that much, but the quality of the people in it sure have............and not for the better.
02-07-2010, 10:53 AM
#720
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Nice attempt to rationalize working at Chick-Fil-A.....it's impossible to get OT there as they are only open 6 days a week. The schedules are set up as to make it hard to get even 40 hours a week on an hourly pay scale. So at best it's 40 hours a week/160 hours a month. His math was correct. Yours is severely flawed.
Open the newspaper, there are tons of jobs hiring, and most do not require ANY kind of advanced education or training... if you look, even security guards are making 10-15 an hour, with unlimited overtime, and health insurance... so, for a college educated person with highly specialized training to be considering what these RJ jobs have sunk the industry down to, is azzinine... you'd make more as a security guard and wouldn't have the education and training debt.
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