American Eagle to hire
01-09-2010, 10:18 AM
#231
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What? Why are you even considering Eagle then? You don't go to Eagle unless you want to make a career out of AMR, and I'm sure by the time you upgrade at Eagle 10 years from now is the time they might hire at AA so it makes sense. Besides, their contracts are going to expire soon and AMR has said they want to get rid of them. It's a no brainier.
01-09-2010, 11:47 AM
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He's confused.
AMR in the past offered Eagle up for sale, but the terms were clear to the interested suitors. AMR wanted to retain too much control and thus every suitor balked.
Eagle will indeed lose some of its flying to CHQ in April, barring any victory by ALPA. Additionally, more flying is likley to be lost to either CHQ or a third carrier to insure whipsawing in the future, but Eagle will still be here feeding AA in the future, just a lot smaller.
AMR in the past offered Eagle up for sale, but the terms were clear to the interested suitors. AMR wanted to retain too much control and thus every suitor balked.
Eagle will indeed lose some of its flying to CHQ in April, barring any victory by ALPA. Additionally, more flying is likley to be lost to either CHQ or a third carrier to insure whipsawing in the future, but Eagle will still be here feeding AA in the future, just a lot smaller.
01-09-2010, 01:02 PM
#234
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All of the FO's that are still flying the line with Eagle now have been there for about two years... how do they not have 1000TT and 270ME? I was on RSV the whole time I was there, took several zero time lines and part time lines, was always trying to drop days without any luck, and was on the line for exactly a year before furlough. I still ended up with over 600 hrs in my year on the line at three different bases and trying to take time off. If you are still flying with FO's with that much low time that they haven't managed to get 270ME in about two years (because mostly everyone that's been there under two years is furloughed) then please let me know their secret!!
01-09-2010, 01:29 PM
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As far as Eagle losing flying to RAH and others, aren't most regionals trying to gt out of the 50 seat market? Maybe a RAH guy can chime in but isn't Bedford trying to get away from those?
AA scope still limits feed to 50 seats except the Eagle -700s and ATRs.
I don't think AMR will farm out much flying since it will change their accounting and how they move money between AA and AE.
AA scope still limits feed to 50 seats except the Eagle -700s and ATRs.
I don't think AMR will farm out much flying since it will change their accounting and how they move money between AA and AE.
01-09-2010, 01:49 PM
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As far as Eagle losing flying to RAH and others, aren't most regionals trying to gt out of the 50 seat market? Maybe a RAH guy can chime in but isn't Bedford trying to get away from those?
AA scope still limits feed to 50 seats except the Eagle -700s and ATRs.
I don't think AMR will farm out much flying since it will change their accounting and how they move money between AA and AE.
AA scope still limits feed to 50 seats except the Eagle -700s and ATRs.
I don't think AMR will farm out much flying since it will change their accounting and how they move money between AA and AE.
01-09-2010, 01:59 PM
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As far as Eagle losing flying to RAH and others, aren't most regionals trying to gt out of the 50 seat market? Maybe a RAH guy can chime in but isn't Bedford trying to get away from those?
AA scope still limits feed to 50 seats except the Eagle -700s and ATRs.
I don't think AMR will farm out much flying since it will change their accounting and how they move money between AA and AE.
AA scope still limits feed to 50 seats except the Eagle -700s and ATRs.
I don't think AMR will farm out much flying since it will change their accounting and how they move money between AA and AE.
I had heard the same thing from several guys on the private side of the RAH pilots forum. From the movement BB is up to I believe it to be the case.
01-09-2010, 02:27 PM
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I have a buddy at AE who is a very senior FO. I am furloughed from Chq and will be in the next RAH recall class in all likelihood. My buddy seems to think AE is the way to go over RAH. I can see advantages to both. RAH has lots of newer desirous Ac and are making all kinds of strategic moves. (I realize there are some who hate RAH for it. I am not a fan of many of the things Mgmt. has done but I don't, nor do any of our pilots, have any say in it and yes we are working on a leading contract to get better pay, work rules and to stop the kind of BS that allowed them to shove the EMB190s down our throat. All of that BS aside) AE has more "stable" base options for now and better pay but they are loosing their contract soon and their EMBs are becoming obsolete with the seat/mile cost and all (obviously Chqs 135,40 and45 are too). I mention that because AEs has a large percentage of that Ac. Both AE and Chq will have to adjust for that in short order to remain competitive.
Also, I am a middle aged man or an old fart to many on here, I really don't want to sit "ready reserve". I would rather spend my reserve time on the golf course or somewhere else close by. I also can't deal with going to SJU.
All that aside if AE weathers the storm of the contract issues and deals with some equipment issues, (which they are starting to do with the CRJs I guess?) AE could be a great place to work over the long haul. Man I wish I had a crystal ball.
Any thoughts would be appreciated. Please, if your the type to flame go to another thread to do it. I am trying to make a career decision here and am trying to stay positive. Pilots bashing pilots is like football players griping at other football players for the play the coaches call.
Any suggestions? Are there any other + or - that I am missing?
Thanks and fly safe guys.
Also, I am a middle aged man or an old fart to many on here, I really don't want to sit "ready reserve". I would rather spend my reserve time on the golf course or somewhere else close by. I also can't deal with going to SJU.
All that aside if AE weathers the storm of the contract issues and deals with some equipment issues, (which they are starting to do with the CRJs I guess?) AE could be a great place to work over the long haul. Man I wish I had a crystal ball.
Any thoughts would be appreciated. Please, if your the type to flame go to another thread to do it. I am trying to make a career decision here and am trying to stay positive. Pilots bashing pilots is like football players griping at other football players for the play the coaches call.
Any suggestions? Are there any other + or - that I am missing?
Thanks and fly safe guys.
That was a foolish mistake on my part. I completely disagree with your friend. I think Republic is by far the way to go, and I regret not having taken advantage of that opportunity. You will sit reserve no matter which company you choose. But the growth potential at Republic is far greater. I think (and I could be wrong) that you would be hard pressed to find an Eagle pilot with many years there that thinks Eagle will expand markedly. More likely it will shrink. As for Eagle being relatively stable, it may be, but if you think long term, who knows? I'm sure the pilots that hired on at Pan Am, Eastern, TWA, and Braniff all thought that they were "stable" companies compared to questionable career choices like Fedex...
Whether you want a faster upgrade or not, the potential for upward movement is better at Republic. Which in turn gives you greater choices at said company, and ultimately a better QOL.
01-09-2010, 02:42 PM
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Mr. Eagle sorry I did not think my comment would cause such great offense. No worries I won't be going there anytime soon. Yes true, you probably wouldn’t want to fly for my current employer neither do I but don't have much of a choice these days. However as I said before if I end up furlough Eagle is not in my plans, prospects there are rather low.( Just my opinion) based on what I have gathered from several former Eagle drivers flying at my current airline. Once again sir only my personal opinion; no need to get personal. Thanks
Who said that I was getting personal?
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