BigPropz

weren't they giving 100k extra to stay in another 8 like 3 years ago if i remember

AirWillie

My neighbor who is a JB CP told me. Some people might also have pt135 experience before.

USMCFLYR

They have been giving Aviation INcentive Pay for a long, long time. Some times it is quite good, other times not as much. Back in the 'good ole' days', not many would take it if they were planning to go for the airlines. the loss in seniority was not worth it in the *long* run. At one time there was a study that said that you could get out all the way until you 18 year and still be better off financially getting on with the majors. Of course those times seem to be long gone now in the current state of the industry. I'm not sure what they were offering 3 years ago. I wasn't paying attention to it anymore.

As for those wanting to get on with American Eagle I say best of luck. I don't know enough about the industry to offer any advice of course; but encourage those geared toward applying to be armed with all the knowledge you can and too make informed decisions based on your expectations and desires, tempered with a healthy dose of reality.

USMCFLYR

AirWillie

That's a good way of saying it. I know at this point, most don't care about anything other than getting on an airline to fly a jet and experience the next level. However if that is your sole reason for going to Eagle then you're probably going to hate it. During the last wave there were a lot of people that got on at the place that hired them first due to low time or whatever only to fly for a short period and move to the airline of choice. I'm willing to bet that Eagle had a lot of pilots leave for the shorter upgrades. If you already have a steady job, just wait for the place that is right for you instead of going through the hassle of switching airlines. Just something to consider if you're trying to get into this industry.

ejsella

Thats the easy part. Have you ever heard about 135 Vfr? My company have a 135 part which minimum time is 500hr. But don't make the VFR fool you. On the FAA check you have to do IFR competecy.

FL450

I don't think he was referring to 135 VFR captain it was more geared towards logging PIC as a 135 SIC... Age old argument that has multiple opinions due to the fact that every one perceives differently.

saxman66

Any former AA/AE interns applying? I was an intern back in 2005 and I ended up going to another regional only to get furloughed.

paxhauler85

I think he is referring to flying on a 135 certificate as the PIC in VFR conditions.

In a former life, I did the same thing. You have to comply with the time requirements of 135.243 and have an instrument rating. However, you cannot operate in IFR conditions until you reach the full 135 mins.

I flew VFR 135 until I met the mins for full 135, then "switched; meaning I could take off on the days it was 500' and 1SM. Before I met the mins, they had to call another pilot.

ejsella

I don't understand that part. As far as a I know... I had a check for 135 PIC and I fly charters and cargo, solo. My company don't use dual pilot unless is a training flight which obviously is one trainee and the CFI. That's how I made the most of my PIC time. Flying cargo and Pax over the Caribbean.

So as a matter of fact the 135 VFR captain is the same as a 135 IFR captain, only that you cannot fly IFR and time minimums for applicability are different. For both position the pilot have to be Instrument Rated.


VFR:

Read Part 135.243 (b)(1)(2)(3)


IFR:

Read Part 135.243 (c)(1)(2)(3)

lavMan

And how much Turbine PIC time do you have? You think with the way the industry is, and when hiring resumes with tons of Captains at regionals and elswhere with mucho CA time you will be competive? My guess not. Not knocking, just a reality check. Why, because I was in your shoes, thinking the same thing as I swung the gear for many years. Even with 1000+hrs of left seat time, I couldn't get my application pulled. You never know till you try, but look at those who have been hired at those companies, and I think you will see a very small percent of those with SIC time and no ATP are very few and far between. Good luck.