American Eagle to hire
01-07-2010, 09:08 PM
#141
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Joined APC: Nov 2008
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I talked to CC today and it sounded like they're looking for 200 ME and I have no clue the TT they are looking for. just to throw that out there. It doesn't matter if you were previously hired and had your class cancelled. You need 200 ME. "So you're getting 100+ hrs/month? but no multi huh. Well you need to try to build some multi..." Really wish it was that easy to find a multi job as a time builder, because I'm not going to buy that time.
Key Lime and Cape Air are hiring
01-08-2010, 12:14 AM
#143
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Joined APC: Jan 2009
Position: Airbus 319/320 Captain
Posts: 880
A lot of people on this forum are very quick with the sophomoric "Eagle has really comfy right seats" comments and the standard "first year pay sucks at regionals" quip. Sure they are true, but the comments are not constructive and at this point if you have been on this forum for any amount of time John Madden himself could accuse you of pointing out the obvious.
The rest of those stories are slightly...slightly more rosy. Eagle has a very senior pilot group for a lot of reasons mostly because folks here bypassed the major transition a few years ago because they thought they would flow up to AA, which didn't happen (it might soon for 244). Some senior pilots here never intended to go up to a major and were content with good equipment, high seniority and reasonable work rules. Everyone in the pilot group has a long-term vested interest in keeping this airline alive, and making it a good place to work and it shows. Chief pilots respect their employees and are typically very helpful and honest when you need their assistance. I called in fatigued once and through a voluntary review system, had it removed from my record, and pay restored. I call in sick and am never questioned about it.
Regional pay and benefits are all pretty much the same and we would all like to see them improved. Show me a working American who doesn't feel the same way and I'll show you a liar. Its the little things that make a few regionals just a little bit more tolerable than the rest and as those airlines go, Eagle is certainly among the top few. Its not the best airline in the world but it is very far from the worst.
People on an anonymous forum are quick to rip on others but if we were all having a face to face discussion I doubt the tone of this thread would be the same. I am very content with my job and would encourage any other unemployed or underemployed pilot in this country who is competent and doesn't have a sense that this industry "owes" them something to apply for these position.
It sounds like the whole "friends and family" system will be the first filter for the thousands of applications CC is about to receive so if you know someone at Eagle, give them a call. If you have any specific questions about QOL issues, the interview/training process or anything else, send me a PM.
The rest of those stories are slightly...slightly more rosy. Eagle has a very senior pilot group for a lot of reasons mostly because folks here bypassed the major transition a few years ago because they thought they would flow up to AA, which didn't happen (it might soon for 244). Some senior pilots here never intended to go up to a major and were content with good equipment, high seniority and reasonable work rules. Everyone in the pilot group has a long-term vested interest in keeping this airline alive, and making it a good place to work and it shows. Chief pilots respect their employees and are typically very helpful and honest when you need their assistance. I called in fatigued once and through a voluntary review system, had it removed from my record, and pay restored. I call in sick and am never questioned about it.
Regional pay and benefits are all pretty much the same and we would all like to see them improved. Show me a working American who doesn't feel the same way and I'll show you a liar. Its the little things that make a few regionals just a little bit more tolerable than the rest and as those airlines go, Eagle is certainly among the top few. Its not the best airline in the world but it is very far from the worst.
People on an anonymous forum are quick to rip on others but if we were all having a face to face discussion I doubt the tone of this thread would be the same. I am very content with my job and would encourage any other unemployed or underemployed pilot in this country who is competent and doesn't have a sense that this industry "owes" them something to apply for these position.
It sounds like the whole "friends and family" system will be the first filter for the thousands of applications CC is about to receive so if you know someone at Eagle, give them a call. If you have any specific questions about QOL issues, the interview/training process or anything else, send me a PM.
01-08-2010, 02:00 AM
#144
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Everything depends... The industry suffer more when a guy PAY FOR WORK...than someone that just want a job to start his/her career and accept a $20,000 first year salary. Right now my 2008 income as a banner and Cfi was only 10,000 and this 2009 baraly I made it to the 15,000. So for me $20,000 is a increase of money. Everything depend in your current work and if you are able to suffer a bit the $$$ for the job that will help you in the future in the majors.
01-08-2010, 04:49 AM
#147
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Joined APC: Oct 2005
Position: CR7 Capt
Posts: 1,621
Thanks Autopilot that's all I wanted to hear...opps my bad read.
I know it's going to be a long distance. But I want to fly a regional first for a couple of years (3 to 5) and then go to a major. I'm 22 so I'm young enough to do this type of movement. I just want that by the age of 26 to 28 start in a major airline. I know that I have to start at the bottom but... that's part of the career right?
So I'm not scare of displacement or changing airplanes...I just want a job and go into the 121 line.
I know it's going to be a long distance. But I want to fly a regional first for a couple of years (3 to 5) and then go to a major. I'm 22 so I'm young enough to do this type of movement. I just want that by the age of 26 to 28 start in a major airline. I know that I have to start at the bottom but... that's part of the career right?
So I'm not scare of displacement or changing airplanes...I just want a job and go into the 121 line.
I'm hoping by next yr a few of my target airlines will start hiring. JB and DAL. i like both of them. That puts me at 26-27yrs old. I spent my last few yrs building a network for reccomendations. It can be done. So once you get in, make friends with a lot ppl. People lead to people. Good Luck.
01-08-2010, 05:38 AM
#148
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Position: MD80
Posts: 1,111
Not to rain on your parade but there are many many more people qualified than you. A 4000 hour ERJ SIC. JB has PIC requirements and DAL has PIC "considerations" which is military related so they could apply with no tpic. I know at some point after being on the right seat for almost a decade you believe that you're also as good as the PIC, but you're not.
01-08-2010, 05:51 AM
#149
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Position: FAA 'Flight Check'
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Not to rain on your parade but there are many many more people qualified than you. A 4000 hour ERJ SIC. JB has PIC requirements and DAL has PIC "considerations" which is military related so they could apply with no tpic. I know at some point after being on the right seat for almost a decade you believe that you're also as good as the PIC, but you're not.
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01-08-2010, 05:51 AM
#150
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Not to rain on your parade but there are many many more people qualified than you. A 4000 hour ERJ SIC. JB has PIC requirements and DAL has PIC "considerations" which is military related so they could apply with no tpic. I know at some point after being on the right seat for almost a decade you believe that you're also as good as the PIC, but you're not.
So then why is it that we lost alot of pilots to DAL and JB when the boom happend? I know of 8 FO's out of ny that went to b6 and 6 other fo's who went to DAL.
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