American Eagle to hire
04-11-2010, 07:50 PM
#1471
SDQ Base Chief
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 320 CA
Posts: 5,665
2013- 22
2014- 20
2015- 31
2016- 30
2017- 24
2018- 28
2019- 46
2020- 47
2021- 62
2022- 63
2023- 69
2024- 59
This is from the April 10, 2010 Seniority list. I got too depressed to calculate retirements beyond 2024. There are 2699 total pilots on the seniority list(newhires havent shown up on the list yet).
04-11-2010, 08:14 PM
#1472
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: EMB-145
Posts: 427
Take heart, Flyby. From the looks of some of our pilots, about a third won't live to be age 65 much less hold a medical until then. Others will retire earlier than age 65; even sooner if the medical insurance issue is fixed.
When both the economy was booming and the legacies were hiring, we lost 30 pilots a month due to attrition. It dropped to 15/month when the airlines stopped hiring and 7/month when the economy dumped in the fall of 2008. While I doubt the legacies will be hiring in the next 5 years, eventually they will do so. The economy should pick up either later this year or early the next so our attrition levels of pilots who've had their fill of the airline bidness will pick up too.
04-12-2010, 02:14 AM
#1473
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Posts: 129
How many are FT pilots? In the first 286.
2012- 0
2013- 22
2014- 20
2015- 31
2016- 30
2017- 24
2018- 28
2019- 46
2020- 47
2021- 62
2022- 63
2023- 69
2024- 59
This is from the April 10, 2010 Seniority list. I got too depressed to calculate retirements beyond 2024. There are 2699 total pilots on the seniority list(newhires havent shown up on the list yet).
2013- 22
2014- 20
2015- 31
2016- 30
2017- 24
2018- 28
2019- 46
2020- 47
2021- 62
2022- 63
2023- 69
2024- 59
This is from the April 10, 2010 Seniority list. I got too depressed to calculate retirements beyond 2024. There are 2699 total pilots on the seniority list(newhires havent shown up on the list yet).
04-12-2010, 04:23 AM
#1474
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: L Side
Posts: 409
While I doubt the legacies will be hiring in the next 5 years, eventually they will do so. The economy should pick up either later this year or early the next so our attrition levels of pilots who've had their fill of the airline bidness will pick up too.
04-12-2010, 04:38 AM
#1475
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: EMB-145
Posts: 427
Hope is a good thing! Which legacy do you think will be hiring? It won't be AA, I doubt it will be Delta or USAirways. Are you speculating United? If their merger talks continue, I doubt any would be hiring since most business experts predict at least a 3% reduction to eliminate overlap from both airlines.
04-12-2010, 07:03 AM
#1476
SDQ Base Chief
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 320 CA
Posts: 5,665
I'm not sure if I am getting your question right, but..
Looking at the top 286 AA seniority numbers on the Eagle list retirements are:
2014- 1
2015- 3
2016- 15
2017- 10
2018- 9
2019- 13
2020- 17
2021- 27
2022- 23
2023- 26
2024- 25
2025- 23
2026- 18
2027- 20
2028- 26
2029- 13
2030- 7
2031- 4
2032- 5
2033- 1
or......
When I filter the 286 oldest pilots on the Eagle seniority list there are 115 that have AA flowthrough numbers (and 4 more that are ex-AA flowbacks)
Looking at the top 286 AA seniority numbers on the Eagle list retirements are:
2014- 1
2015- 3
2016- 15
2017- 10
2018- 9
2019- 13
2020- 17
2021- 27
2022- 23
2023- 26
2024- 25
2025- 23
2026- 18
2027- 20
2028- 26
2029- 13
2030- 7
2031- 4
2032- 5
2033- 1
or......
When I filter the 286 oldest pilots on the Eagle seniority list there are 115 that have AA flowthrough numbers (and 4 more that are ex-AA flowbacks)
04-12-2010, 11:07 AM
#1478
alchemist
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,089
We made the list of the best us airline in 2009, unfortunately, we we're one of the three least performers
04-12-2010, 05:49 PM
#1480
SDQ Base Chief
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 320 CA
Posts: 5,665
On the contrary. We scored in the top 5 best in terms of consumer complaints. Baggage handling and in-voluntary denied boarding (bumping pax) hurt us the most and we were the worst in those two categories. On-time arrivals at AE were identical to AA (77.2%).
http://downloads.aqr.aero/reports/2010aqr.pdf
The formula they use to calculate the Airline Quality score is bogus as well. You can have the worst on-time performance but never bump any pax and be ranked #1 (this happened a few years ago).
http://downloads.aqr.aero/reports/2010aqr.pdf
The formula they use to calculate the Airline Quality score is bogus as well. You can have the worst on-time performance but never bump any pax and be ranked #1 (this happened a few years ago).
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