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Old 09-28-2008, 05:37 PM
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I'm wondering who is hiring pilots now? I'm slowly getting burned out on flight instruction (3 years and 900 hours of private/instrument instruction-no commercial or CFI applicants). I've got 135.243 mins and about 100 hrs to go to the ATP mins. The part that hurts is the multi time - 67 hours and the school I work for doesn't have a multi bird for instruction. As I've said before, I'm getting burned out on flight instruction (please, anything other than private pilot instruction!) and I'm looking for a change of pace. I've fired off a number of resumes, but no call backs or responses.... Any suggestions are more than welcome!
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surf the web for jobs, its all about who you know, talk to people at your flight school, talk to people on this forum. I don't know.
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I know airline jobs are more appealing, but considering the market we need to be open to other things if flight instructing grates on our nerves. See 49CFR 119.1(e) for a list ideas. From that list, I personally think that it would be fun to fly the Twin Otter for skydiving ops. I'm looking into that as a possibility until the market turns around. Don't know yet what they would require for multi-time, but I have 155. Can you buy a block of cheap multi time then apply at a 135 carrier?
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How about going to an academy and ride out the storm there. You'd probably qualify for any experience bonuses and pay increases they might offer and you could probably get out of the private pilot monotony that you are in right now.

A few off the top of my head:

IFTA (Bakersfield, CA) IFTA:Instructor Jobs
IASCO (Napa, CA) Take Flight with IASCO!

If you can find one of those "other" flying jobs right now, more power to you! However, the flight academy route might be a better and more lucrative way to go.
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Lucrative.... seriously? I have to smile.
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Originally Posted by proskuneho
I know airline jobs are more appealing, but considering the market we need to be open to other things if flight instructing grates on our nerves. See 49CFR 119.1(e) for a list ideas. From that list, I personally think that it would be fun to fly the Twin Otter for skydiving ops. I'm looking into that as a possibility until the market turns around. Don't know yet what they would require for multi-time, but I have 155. Can you buy a block of cheap multi time then apply at a 135 carrier?

FWIW... I fly the otter for a drop zone which is fun and my job, and I've seen the same elsewhere, only require 1000 TT and 50-100 multi. 50 of which is in type for insurance but that you get flying right seat for a couple weeks. so yeah... with your time you could land a job building turbine time. check out dropzone dot com for these gigs... good luck
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Originally Posted by TheGreatChecko
How about going to an academy and ride out the storm there. You'd probably qualify for any experience bonuses and pay increases they might offer and you could probably get out of the private pilot monotony that you are in right now.

A few off the top of my head:

IFTA (Bakersfield, CA) IFTA:Instructor Jobs
IASCO (Napa, CA) Take Flight with IASCO!

If you can find one of those "other" flying jobs right now, more power to you! However, the flight academy route might be a better and more lucrative way to go.
I like the following mention from IASCO:

"This position does not build flight hours quickly.
General aviation background preferred."

They want people who don't want to build time and they don't want former airline pilots to train airline pilots for JAL.? GA guys with no experience are better to teach future airline pilots than pilots with airline experience.

I guess that leaves me out. I have 9000 airline hours and 4000 instructor hours.
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Originally Posted by aviator4hire
I'm wondering who is hiring pilots now? I'm slowly getting burned out on flight instruction (3 years and 900 hours of private/instrument instruction-no commercial or CFI applicants). I've got 135.243 mins and about 100 hrs to go to the ATP mins. The part that hurts is the multi time - 67 hours and the school I work for doesn't have a multi bird for instruction. As I've said before, I'm getting burned out on flight instruction (please, anything other than private pilot instruction!) and I'm looking for a change of pace. I've fired off a number of resumes, but no call backs or responses.... Any suggestions are more than welcome!
Fly the Grand Canyon, Alaska, banner tow, traffic watch, 135 freight, corporate, etc. Finding the job is the hard part.
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Thanks to everyone who has replied so far. I'll be using all of your recommendations! I just wish the market wasn't so abysimal! Heck, I'm just glad I've got a job right now, because there's a lot out there with out one... I'm just trying to smile, grin and bear it, but it's not getting any easier. Another instructor (with a student) and I (also with a student) almost got a midair today and it's getting crazy somedays... I talked to my boss about it and he said to keep both eyes wide open! :-) I half way felt like closing them so I didn't have to watch that disaster....
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Originally Posted by BBflyer
FWIW... I fly the otter for a drop zone which is fun and my job, and I've seen the same elsewhere, only require 1000 TT and 50-100 multi. 50 of which is in type for insurance but that you get flying right seat for a couple weeks. so yeah... with your time you could land a job building turbine time. check out dropzone dot com for these gigs... good luck
Thanks for the info. The Twin Otter is an amazing aircraft, and I would love to fly it. The STOL performance is shocking! I'll check out dropzone.com. I need almost 100 more total time just to meet mins though; I just passed 900.
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