HSLD

We don't have the full pay scales yet, therefore no dedicated page for Singapore - although they are hiring CAPTAINS. A recent email from one of our sources gives an accurate profile for expat. compensation.

There is mention of F/O positions on the SIN web site, although we have no details on expat. hiring for those positions. Our sources tell us that SIN only hires expat. Captains. More details here: SIN flight crew hiring

"...[a recent new hire] only had an Airbus 320 rating, they accepted him on the 777...Normally, 2000 hours of wide body captain was the minimum. They don't hire copilots. Singapore Cargo does but I would not recommend that job to anyone.

SIA contracts are really different. I'll just give the ex-pat version since your readers will fall into that category. These are all in Sing dollars, about 1.6 these days. I am using a 75 hour month which is about right.

777 captain monthly Base Pay: 9300. Plus a variable component 750. Plus 1000 ex-pat bonus. May or may not hold with the new contract. Variable component is a complex formula that has been forced on all Singapore by the gov't. If the company makes money, the 16.5% they withheld, comes all back. One as a monthly component and then a separate annual component. 750x12.

In Flight Allowance: productivity pay 82.50/hr x 75= 6187.50

Meal allowance: average 2000

So total base before allowances: 19237.50

Allowances: housing 3100; education 700/child

Retirement bonus: 50,000 (5 yr. contract)

Annual bonus: 3 months base pay 27900

Company paid loss of license=300,000 (60K/yr)

Free medical. Co-pay after a minimum number of doc visits. Small co-pay for hospitalization, etc. Can purchase inexpensive family insurance and add-on insurance to basic company hospitalization.

Total monthly with two kids: 23728.50. Might be a bit on the high side. Say 22,000/mo which includes all allowances.

Taxes are 18-20%. No withholding. Gov't just sends a bill. For US citizens the first 80,000 is not declared as US income. Also any foreign tax paid can be used to offset the total US tax bill.

So, say 22,000/mo x 12 mos= 264000. Plus the annual variable is 9000. Plus the 3 mos. bonus 27,900.

Annual total= 300,900. Plus the retirement bonus of 50,000 at the end of the contract.

Cost of living: nice 3 bdrm condo 3000/mo. Schools at 1500/mo per kid private school. Food and utilities are cheap, cars are outrageously expensive. Don't need one unless you are a xenophobe. In that case, don't come out here!..."

captain_drew

OK. . part of my heritage is Irish. Some think the Irish are “thick”. Perhaps that is my problem <G>. WHAT the Hell does enjoying the freedom “wheels” gives you have to do with xenophobia? I don’t see any connection, not that not having one where public transport was decent, would keep me from coming. BUT . . I don’t get the connection you are tying to make. .sorry.

While on the topic. Will they hire “over 60” types?

HSLD

Don't shoot the messenger

I guess I should have omitted that part of the message, although having ridden many trains and subways throughout Asia, I think I know what he's talking about. But then again, most public transportation around the world smells like that.

As a follow up, I asked if there were longevity increases, here's the reply:

"...there are no longevity increases for ex-pat contracts. They are five year and 3 year fixed deals..."

Cheers -

captain_drew

Haven’t even considered unslinging the weapon . .yet<G> . . . I just want to know if I am stupid for not “getting” what part of the American love of “wheels” and the freedom driving brings equates to xenophobia?

Again . . what the hell does THAT have to do with racism?

Anyway .. my real question was . .since they are flying mainly into countries that don’t have the discriminatory practice of “Age 60”
. . will they hire Captains over 60?

HSLD

While I didn't write that brief, I do know that guy who did, I know he was not coming at it from a racisit point of view, just the standard Merriam-Webster definition:

xe·no·phobe: one unduly fearful of what is foreign and especially of people of foreign origin.

HSLD

Oops, almost forgot to answer the important question. I'll ask about age 60, I'm not sure if they have that or not. I DO know they have the discriminatory practice of “Age 30” for their flight attendants. If you turn 30, or can't fit the size small sarong you're outta there.

SWAjet

Captain Drew,

Are you thinking about coming out of retirement??

captain_drew

Only to “get outta the house” <g> . . if you know what I mean. Don’t need the bucks, as there are nice USN and FedEx checks automatically deposited in the Credit Union on the 1st of the month -and the first SS check starts coming after next month . .almost have a “tax problem” <G> . . all the rental properties are “free and clear” and the only mortgage is on the homestead, as that is the best tax write-off. But, a 777 would be nice <G> . . and maybe layovers in SYD? Hey an old fighter pilot can dream, eh?

SWAjet

I think if you're going to stoop and fly passengers that Singapore isn't a bad place to go. That's the way the airline flying experience was supposed to be. It will be like flying for Pan Am in the 70's.

phil squares

SIA Cargo is also hiring on the 744F. Check out http://www.siacargo.com/First%20Offi...0positions.pdf.

Neither the 777 or the 744 will take over 60.