12oclockHi

Anyone looking from the outside, trying to gauge the future, remember what you can control and what you can’t. Even if things don’t return to the recent “glory days” , things are still pretty good and opportunities will always be available to those who work hard enough to find them. Some of the posting from 12 months ago seem (even then) a bit over the top. Even if it was easier to break in at the level many aspire to then, it still required you to match up well against your peers also with similar goals. Whether you are still in training or digging your way to 1500 hours (or more!) you need to work on and improve on the things you have control of. Improve your flying abilities, enhance your aeronautical knowledge beyond that which gets you past the required FAA exams. If you are teaching, than not only give it 100% effort, but set a goal of being even better than your instructors were. Network and make sure you stay in touch with those you have met. Continue to improve your resume and invest in other self improvement.

Take a deep breath and relax, your day is coming. Minimize mistakes and work on what you can. When you are young, time is your friend.

HerkDood

Allegiant is hiring thru September and will pay for ATP. Have you tried there?

121noob

I can't survive their near poverty level first year pay. Otherwise I would love to work there.

JohnBurke

You're a minimally-qualified, low-time 135 copilot. What can you afford?

TeamSasquatch

I don’t think this is the correct career for you. Seriously, not trying to be rude. But, it does not appear you have leadership traits or maybe foresight. Maybe you interview poorly? Some interview coaching might help. But, there about 1 zillion business jets flying around. Look at Flexjet or NetJets for example. Until recently, they hired at 1500hrs, had a base of ~$120k, and you could extend and practically work all on/zero off making 200k year 1…. That would pay your bills (I hope🤷‍♂️), fill your logbook, and probably help your goals….

121noob

You win the tool of the day award!

Going to Allegiant would be a 40% pay cut for me the first year. Can't do that, otherwise I would chase it.

Flex isn't hiring anyone under 3000 hours and NetJets won't call. Yes I have hired someone to help review my apps.

ZapBrannigan

He’s not being a tool. He is being honest. Everybody took pay cuts to go to the majors throughout the last 30 years or so. Some cuts were dramatic. It’s one of those things you realize is coming, so you save and sacrifice for to prepare yourself and your family. Typically only takes a year or two to get back to where you were.

JohnBurke

Don't blame him for telling you the truth. Blame yourself for being too deaf to listen.

What can you do? To what salary range are you entitled at your lofty experience level and background?

Good god. You might have to take a job commensurate with your experience level and qualification. What a nightmare.

You don't get to have everything right away. You might have to earn it.

What employment isn't beneath you? It might help you specified what you're willing to accept.

Sky Dog

That is the reality of this career. Any time you change airlines for a better future you take a first year pay cut. The idea is to save up for that first year of low pay so you can survive (on ramen and peanut butter if necessary).

A 40% pay cut to get 121 multi-turbine time in your logbook is called an investment, just like the thousands you spent getting to where you are now. Don’t give up at the finish line just because it’s going to require a bit more sacrifice. That sacrifice used to be significantly more than it is today. Your perspective is colored by the anomaly of the last couple of years. There was a time when regional airline pilots qualified for food stamps.

in any case, you should look at what makes more financial sense: going to a job paying less now but more later, or staying where you’re at until a higher paying job becomes available at some unknown date in the future. The smart money is in investing sooner than later.

60av8tor

You guys are pi$$ing into the wind with this one. For months he's been crying about the same crap, receiving the same comments, and being a pr$ck to anyone that voices reality. I'm really beginning to think the guy is a slow-burn troll. If not, I'd say screening is working.