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Old 01-15-2024, 12:18 AM
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Then it should be good enough for the airlines. Who is going to be the first to represent?

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What are you attempting to suggest? HR practices for adminstrative positions should influence medical standards? Affirmative-action hiring practices in government administrative hiring should be assumed by commercial operators? In what capacity?

The FAA also has a standing requirement for inspectors: a maximum of two aircraft accidents in the last two years for which the applicant was the cause.

Should airlines adopt this policy too?
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Airlines should hire pilots with lack of vision. Blind should not be discriminated against.
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What are you attempting to suggest? HR practices for adminstrative positions should influence medical standards? Affirmative-action hiring practices in government administrative hiring should be assumed by commercial operators? In what capacity?

The FAA also has a standing requirement for inspectors: a maximum of two aircraft accidents in the last two years for which the applicant was the cause.

Should airlines adopt this policy too?
Seroiusly? The limit is 2 accidents for which the applicant was the cause in the last 2 years??? I would have guessed it was a lot more stringent.
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Airlines should hire pilots with lack of vision. Blind should not be discriminated against.
Does putting 'visionary' on your LinkedIn fluff piece count??? :-)
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Seroiusly? The limit is 2 accidents for which the applicant was the cause in the last 2 years??? I would have guessed it was a lot more stringent.
I typed two years. Didn't get it edited in time. The FAA standard is in the last five years.

The FAA will consider applicants with far more accidents or mishaps on their record, but only two to which they contributed.

For example:

https://www.usajobs.gov/job/769192900

General Requirements for All Positions:
  1. Not more than two separate incidents involving Federal aviation regulations violations in the last 5 years;
  2. Valid State driver's license;
  3. Fluency in the English language;
  4. No chemical dependencies or drug abuse that could interfere with job performance; and
  5. High school diploma or equivalent.
​​​​​​​When the predominant work involves air carrier operations, applicants for Aviation Safety Inspector (Operations) positions must meet all of the following requirements.
  1. At least 1 year of pilot experience in multi-engine aircraft of more than 12,500 pounds maximum certificated takeoff weight;
  2. Not more than 2 flying accidents during the last 5 years in which the applicant's pilot error was involved;
  3. Professional flying skill as demonstrated in a simulator check to Airline Transport Pilot Standard.
  4. Minimum 100 flight hours during the last 3 years;
  5. Airline Transport Pilot Certificate or Commercial Pilot Certificate with instrument airplane rating (Department of Navy positions require pilot experience as demonstrated by previous ATP level performance in large multi-engine airplanes and helicopters);
  6. Possession of a valid second-class FAA medical certificate (For positions within the Department of Navy, applicants must also be physically qualified to ride as an observer aboard squadron aircraft. In addition, must also meet physical requirements to travel and lift heavy objects while performing mishap investigations); and
  7. Minimum 1,500 total flight hours.
​​​​​​​When the predominant work involves general aviation operations, applicants for Aviation Safety Inspector (Operations) positions must meet all of the following requirements.
  1. Valid, unexpired Flight Instructor Certificate with single and multi-engine airplane and instrument airplane ratings. Must have given a minimum of 200 hours of flight instruction in an aircraft.
  2. Professional flying skill as demonstrated in a flight check to Commercial Pilot Certificate with an instrument rating;
  3. Possession of Airline Transport Pilot Certificate or Commercial Pilot Certificate with instrument airplane rating.
  4. Minimum of 100 flight hours within the last 3 years.
  5. Minimum of 1,500 total flight hours.
  6. Possession of single and multi-engine land airplane ratings.
  7. Not more than 2 flying accidents in the last 5 years in which the applicant's pilot error was involved.
  8. Possession of a valid second-class FAA medical certificate.

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Originally Posted by Sliceback
Does putting 'visionary' on your LinkedIn fluff piece count??? :-)
My name is Ray Charles, I will be your Captain today...with Georgia on My Mind.
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Looks like Delta is following FAA's lead

https://babylonbee.com/news/delta-in...l-needs-pilots
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Looks like Delta is following FAA's lead

https://babylonbee.com/news/delta-in...l-needs-pilots
Maybe, but United still leads the pack when it comes to diversity:

https://babylonbee.com/news/history-...nd-flight-crew
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The timing of this couldn't have been worse. The optics of coming out with this right after the Alaska incident, literally you could count it in hours.

Anyone with any sense of the presence of the world outside their tiny cubical would have known to hold off on making this announcement until after the dust settles a bit on Boeing hiring complete idiots to put on doors that aren't doors and forgetting the bolts. And then going completely off the rails and not checking the 3rd party work before slapping a pass sticker on it and yelling "SEND IT".

You'd think the FAA would be pushing the idea to the public that safety was the number one priority instead of who can we move to the front of the line to hire based on how broken they are. But NOooooo lets ignore all that safety of the public for literally this.

But what do I know. I'm an idiot. I think only women can have babies.
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