Jet J

And how many maxes are getting delivered this year?
You’re talking out your a$$ 🤣
Saying with such certainty they’ll wipe the 321
”ImMEdIaTelY” is hilarious, when we can’t even get any of these $h!t can maxes on property.

fuzzball

I don't say it's 12/12, the CEO said it in the annual report to shareholders, which is publicly available for anyone who has 90 seconds to obtain facts. Speaking of facts, I'd be curious to hear your source that A330s aren't competitive on routes against 787s. Funny thing, HA published data after the 787 announcement that with our cost and fare structure, the A330 was a wash against the 787 up to about 7 hours, requiring up to a 10+ hour stage for the economics to favor the much more expensive (and now 5 years delayed) 787. Before you ask, sorry, no I don't have that available to publish here. That was internal to employees and almost six years ago.

Shorter segments with the now cheap A330s does two things: Provides a vastly better customer experience and rakes in 5% of our revenue in cargo with all that belly space, without needing dedicated freighters.

Facts aren't whatever convenient thought comes into your head to support a bias. But this is the internet so I guess I should lower my standards.

vaxedtothemax

If the 330 carried the same costs as the 787, we wouldn't be getting them. The 787 will basically do the same routes as the 330 currently does. We aren't going to Europe or farther into Asia. That is a pipe dream that employees consistently ask the C-Suites during every webcast/zoom call in. So where will the 787 go and why would we switch airframes? Because the 787 is cheaper to operate. AK may change that with a more proactive, less risk adverse model. But if HA stood alone it would be HI-West Coast in a 787.

I agree with the above guy. 737 does inter-island much like SWA does. 787's phased into SEA base, except maybe a few for Japan/ICN etc.. 330 reduction unless AK finds legitimate uses for them out of a West Coast base. 321's phased out. You guys are attacking the guy because he said "immediate". Nothing will be immediate, but it will eventually occur. And like someone said, it's 18 321's. Those that have never been out of Hawaii it may seem like a lot, but it isn't.

Koapaka, from what I hear, is basically closing and whatever operational people are left are moving to the airport ops area, or something like that. AK is already in cleaing house mode, and has identified much waste (especially in training)

On another thread a guy is asking about LAX/SFO AK basing pro's/con's. He is smart. HNL will not be the same size. Trips will not be the same. You don't have to be a business major to understand AK would be crazy to maintain the status quo after spending $1.9 Billion. Nothing will be immediate, but when the dust settles, a shift will occur.

PurringRaccoon

I think most of us can agree that whatever we are doing now - we are not doing it well enough. Alaska is not going to let things stay as it is. They will make things more profitable and that means changes. I am a junior 717 FO and I am mentally gearing up for those changes. I am slowly easing myself into getting used to shock of having to abandon my prospect of rapid progression into wide-bodys, being displaced back into mainland, stuck at bottom for years etc.... But whatever problems that come with this merger, I have faith that time & seniority progression will make it easier. I just really really hope that I have a job.

Disappointment

Yeah I get that it sucks having your work world turned upside down, but anything that's losing money will get the axe and HNL wont be the same size going through the aquisition. SFO and LAX are much smaller than the sum of Alaska and Virgins pre merger presence.

Disappointment

This

Change is coming, it sucks having your work world be turned upside down but AS has no intention of keeping things the way they are.

rickair7777

But SEA is nice this time of year...

fuzzball

Are the customers better off after these changes? What problem did this solve? Is the system more reliable now? Do the employees have a greater or lesser desire to make personal sacrifices to support the operation after these changes?

DenainaPilot

It solved the problem of not letting JetBlue in Alaska’s backyard.

fuzzball

The acquisition, sure. And the the decisions made afterwards?