Gobows

So he was right about it?

vaxedtothemax

As long as the rest of us get the same option... VEBA or be assigned to a committee at 90hrs/mnth. He could have done his committee job at 37.5/month.

vaxedtothemax

What I see is some one who is being factually correct, and others who don't like the fact that he is correct but being vocal about it. Gee, when else did that happen over the last 3 years? I'll have to think about that one. Unfortunately, the common fact about HI in general is "don't go against the collective group. Embrace the groupthink and socialist tendencies."

nene

It is amazing on here that no one yet has come online and refuted any of his claims, they just attack the person who brings it to light. What do they say, sunlinght if the best disinfectant.

Hawaii808

I have no idea if is right or not. I would think though that there would be an issue with being out on VEBA and doing committee work. I would bet you can’t do any work while on VEBA, but I really don’t know. Getting paid 90 hrs doesn’t seem unreasonable to me for a negotiator during that time period either.

ridinhigh

I would hope it would be more than 90 hours for the guy literally writing our future.

WindWalker999

Would have to get someone with more intimate knowledge to confirm this, but a quick glance at Appendix E of the contract (which is the VEBA plan) shows that "active service" is inclusive of "...a leave of absence from the Employer to perform Association business". Which does not require a medical certificate.

So being "disabled" and getting paid thru VEBA, and doing ALPA work and therefore being in "active service", would appear to be mutually exclusive. If that is the correct interpretation then the negotiator would not have been able to negotiate while on VEBA. Anyone else who has actually read the appropriate sections of contract have a contrary interpretation? I am most definitely not an expert in that area, but that is what it seems to say on the paper.

If so, and if the MEC and negotiating comittee felt that the negotiator in question was indispensible to the ongoing process at the time, then keeping him on active status for that period was acceptable as far as I can tell.

fostro

Well Chris, 717 Captain, that would most likely mean you are junior to me, if that is the case you better start changing your tune because you will be in SFO as an FO very soon. Immature, you mean pointing out facts, why don't you do some real investigations like reviewing all the facts I pointed out? Please bring the legal game, that would expose EVERYTHING, nothing to hide here!

Ignorance is Toxic, SFO FO, in Unity...

fostro

Hmmm, 65% Ratification? Let's see the last PYRAMID SURVEY, why do you think it's never been released? Maybe your on the gravy train?

65% Echo, Waiting for Survey Results, in Unity...

fostro

LOL, sorry friend but I'm guessing you're not in the top 10% at HA, see you in LAX, the only difference is I will be an FO on the 787 with a year upgrade, and you will be an FO on a 737 with a 7-year upgrade because you supported the Good Ole' Boys that $*&^ you on the SLI.

Home Sweet LAX, in Unity...