Combining with Alaska Airlines for a Stronger
05-03-2024, 04:57 PM
#663
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Yes...Like Orlando, which was cut because it was unprofitable (as it was unprofitable for the last couple of airlines to try it over the preceding 20 years or so). And which assets were redeployed onto additional AUS flights, which ARE profitable.
05-05-2024, 12:17 PM
#664
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We were already doing AUS 3x per week. That frequency was only recently increased. MCO was cut 2 Summers ago. I have lived in HI for the "preceding 20 yrs or so". Which major airline did MCO-HNL, or anywhere East besides JFK, EWR, IAH, IAD, ORD, DFW, BOS and CVG back in the day.
The cheerleaders may continue to believe HA management cannot do any wrong. I've got hundreds of $$ millions in losses and basically zero course correction that says otherwise. Remember, anybody looks like a good leader when times are good.
I'll put it on "paper". If this AK agreement does not go through, we're pretty much f$%ked. Enjoy our contract while it lasts if AK falls through. We have way to many people tied to the Islands, it's a managements wet dream. You think the "we're not Delta" crowd was bad. Wait til the scare tactics start and the " I will never leave HI crowd" accepts less.
Oh, and more runway closures til atleast June. Sweet.
05-05-2024, 01:06 PM
#665
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MCO was specifically replaced for a Japan return. They gave MCO a year. Not sure if the 15 false openings and what Snook calls " a conservative approach to Covid", made Japan a forecasted profitable decision? I'd say it should have been pretty obvious the Japs weren't going to travel anytime soon. Any city in FL is a bad decision because there are way too many tropical islands much closer.
We were already doing AUS 3x per week. That frequency was only recently increased. MCO was cut 2 Summers ago. I have lived in HI for the "preceding 20 yrs or so". Which major airline did MCO-HNL, or anywhere East besides JFK, EWR, IAH, IAD, ORD, DFW, BOS and CVG back in the day.
The cheerleaders may continue to believe HA management cannot do any wrong. I've got hundreds of $$ millions in losses and basically zero course correction that says otherwise. Remember, anybody looks like a good leader when times are good.
I'll put it on "paper". If this AK agreement does not go through, we're pretty much f$%ked. Enjoy our contract while it lasts if AK falls through. We have way to many people tied to the Islands, it's a managements wet dream. You think the "we're not Delta" crowd was bad. Wait til the scare tactics start and the " I will never leave HI crowd" accepts less.
Oh, and more runway closures til atleast June. Sweet.
We were already doing AUS 3x per week. That frequency was only recently increased. MCO was cut 2 Summers ago. I have lived in HI for the "preceding 20 yrs or so". Which major airline did MCO-HNL, or anywhere East besides JFK, EWR, IAH, IAD, ORD, DFW, BOS and CVG back in the day.
The cheerleaders may continue to believe HA management cannot do any wrong. I've got hundreds of $$ millions in losses and basically zero course correction that says otherwise. Remember, anybody looks like a good leader when times are good.
I'll put it on "paper". If this AK agreement does not go through, we're pretty much f$%ked. Enjoy our contract while it lasts if AK falls through. We have way to many people tied to the Islands, it's a managements wet dream. You think the "we're not Delta" crowd was bad. Wait til the scare tactics start and the " I will never leave HI crowd" accepts less.
Oh, and more runway closures til atleast June. Sweet.
05-05-2024, 05:57 PM
#666
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MCO was specifically replaced for a Japan return. They gave MCO a year. Not sure if the 15 false openings and what Snook calls " a conservative approach to Covid", made Japan a forecasted profitable decision? I'd say it should have been pretty obvious the Japs weren't going to travel anytime soon. Any city in FL is a bad decision because there are way too many tropical islands much closer.
We were already doing AUS 3x per week. That frequency was only recently increased. MCO was cut 2 Summers ago. I have lived in HI for the "preceding 20 yrs or so". Which major airline did MCO-HNL, or anywhere East besides JFK, EWR, IAH, IAD, ORD, DFW, BOS and CVG back in the day.
The cheerleaders may continue to believe HA management cannot do any wrong. I've got hundreds of $$ millions in losses and basically zero course correction that says otherwise. Remember, anybody looks like a good leader when times are good.
I'll put it on "paper". If this AK agreement does not go through, we're pretty much f$%ked. Enjoy our contract while it lasts if AK falls through. We have way to many people tied to the Islands, it's a managements wet dream. You think the "we're not Delta" crowd was bad. Wait til the scare tactics start and the " I will never leave HI crowd" accepts less.
Oh, and more runway closures til atleast June. Sweet.
We were already doing AUS 3x per week. That frequency was only recently increased. MCO was cut 2 Summers ago. I have lived in HI for the "preceding 20 yrs or so". Which major airline did MCO-HNL, or anywhere East besides JFK, EWR, IAH, IAD, ORD, DFW, BOS and CVG back in the day.
The cheerleaders may continue to believe HA management cannot do any wrong. I've got hundreds of $$ millions in losses and basically zero course correction that says otherwise. Remember, anybody looks like a good leader when times are good.
I'll put it on "paper". If this AK agreement does not go through, we're pretty much f$%ked. Enjoy our contract while it lasts if AK falls through. We have way to many people tied to the Islands, it's a managements wet dream. You think the "we're not Delta" crowd was bad. Wait til the scare tactics start and the " I will never leave HI crowd" accepts less.
Oh, and more runway closures til atleast June. Sweet.
"Japs". Really? Come on brother.
05-05-2024, 06:01 PM
#667
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Posts: 106
MCO was specifically replaced for a Japan return. They gave MCO a year. Not sure if the 15 false openings and what Snook calls " a conservative approach to Covid", made Japan a forecasted profitable decision? I'd say it should have been pretty obvious the Japs weren't going to travel anytime soon. Any city in FL is a bad decision because there are way too many tropical islands much closer.
We were already doing AUS 3x per week. That frequency was only recently increased. MCO was cut 2 Summers ago. I have lived in HI for the "preceding 20 yrs or so". Which major airline did MCO-HNL, or anywhere East besides JFK, EWR, IAH, IAD, ORD, DFW, BOS and CVG back in the day.
The cheerleaders may continue to believe HA management cannot do any wrong. I've got hundreds of $$ millions in losses and basically zero course correction that says otherwise. Remember, anybody looks like a good leader when times are good.
I'll put it on "paper". If this AK agreement does not go through, we're pretty much f$%ked. Enjoy our contract while it lasts if AK falls through. We have way to many people tied to the Islands, it's a managements wet dream. You think the "we're not Delta" crowd was bad. Wait til the scare tactics start and the " I will never leave HI crowd" accepts less.
Oh, and more runway closures til atleast June. Sweet.
We were already doing AUS 3x per week. That frequency was only recently increased. MCO was cut 2 Summers ago. I have lived in HI for the "preceding 20 yrs or so". Which major airline did MCO-HNL, or anywhere East besides JFK, EWR, IAH, IAD, ORD, DFW, BOS and CVG back in the day.
The cheerleaders may continue to believe HA management cannot do any wrong. I've got hundreds of $$ millions in losses and basically zero course correction that says otherwise. Remember, anybody looks like a good leader when times are good.
I'll put it on "paper". If this AK agreement does not go through, we're pretty much f$%ked. Enjoy our contract while it lasts if AK falls through. We have way to many people tied to the Islands, it's a managements wet dream. You think the "we're not Delta" crowd was bad. Wait til the scare tactics start and the " I will never leave HI crowd" accepts less.
Oh, and more runway closures til atleast June. Sweet.
If the merger doesn’t go through we are forecast to make a profit by the third or fourth quarter of this year. We’re our losses are due to massive training costs, airline upgrades and high debt payment.
1) The training costs will be going down by about 60% post OEM. All Airbus to Airbus courses will fall under a “short course format”. This means 10 day foot print no matter what direction you go…
2) Starlink is a game changer. I don’t know anyone who given the choice would chose anything but a flight with Starlink on a long haul flight.
3) Our bad debt payments will be restructured soon for more favorable terms (no massive balloon payment…).
Lastly, should the deal not go through, you can expect more Amazon 330’s and less pax 330’s (as the 787’s come online). The 717 will go away over the next few years, being replaced with used A319 (most likely).
05-05-2024, 07:29 PM
#668
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FWIW i'm really hoping it gets the green light, it'll be good for everyone in the long run.
05-07-2024, 10:14 PM
#669
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Posts: 466
I understand your concern, but let’s relax…
If the merger doesn’t go through we are forecast to make a profit by the third or fourth quarter of this year. We’re our losses are due to massive training costs, airline upgrades and high debt payment.
1) The training costs will be going down by about 60% post OEM. All Airbus to Airbus courses will fall under a “short course format”. This means 10 day foot print no matter what direction you go…
2) Starlink is a game changer. I don’t know anyone who given the choice would chose anything but a flight with Starlink on a long haul flight.
3) Our bad debt payments will be restructured soon for more favorable terms (no massive balloon payment…).
Lastly, should the deal not go through, you can expect more Amazon 330’s and less pax 330’s (as the 787’s come online). The 717 will go away over the next few years, being replaced with used A319 (most likely).
If the merger doesn’t go through we are forecast to make a profit by the third or fourth quarter of this year. We’re our losses are due to massive training costs, airline upgrades and high debt payment.
1) The training costs will be going down by about 60% post OEM. All Airbus to Airbus courses will fall under a “short course format”. This means 10 day foot print no matter what direction you go…
2) Starlink is a game changer. I don’t know anyone who given the choice would chose anything but a flight with Starlink on a long haul flight.
3) Our bad debt payments will be restructured soon for more favorable terms (no massive balloon payment…).
Lastly, should the deal not go through, you can expect more Amazon 330’s and less pax 330’s (as the 787’s come online). The 717 will go away over the next few years, being replaced with used A319 (most likely).
On another note, Google Chris Cuomo Ivermectin. I know I'm shocked. Only half the Country saw it. Cliff note version. He's got vaccine side effects. Well slap my a$$ and call me Shirley.
05-07-2024, 10:24 PM
#670
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So you've never used the word blacks or haole? You've never used the term "Jews" even though it's a religion, not a race. Our COO is a Brit.
I may not be politically correct, but I'll never be called a hypocrit. Just remember, Jimmy Kimmel did blackface, picked on midgets and had girls with bouncing boobies. Now he thinks he's the epitome of political correctness. Don't be a Jimmy Kimmel.
I may not be politically correct, but I'll never be called a hypocrit. Just remember, Jimmy Kimmel did blackface, picked on midgets and had girls with bouncing boobies. Now he thinks he's the epitome of political correctness. Don't be a Jimmy Kimmel.
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