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Old 02-01-2024, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Gobows
Have you tried to have a conversation other than “what’s for dinner” or studying? Share your knowledge of your previous shop’s contract or how ALPA worked there? Making comparisons isn’t complaining contrary to popular belief here. Pull at that thread a little, it may surprise you.
I have. In a previous life I handled grievances so that is certainly a point of conversation. Everybody's got some complaint, but none that I've heard from guys have been that major.

So I'll ask again... What issues are you hear guys gripe about.
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Old 02-01-2024, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TTail
I have. In a previous life I handled grievances so that is certainly a point of conversation. Everybody's got some complaint, but none that I've heard from guys have been that major.

So I'll ask again... What issues are you hear guys gripe about.
TTail is from the MEC, just read his post, MEC do better he's not that bright.

No Goons Supporting the Spin, in Unity...
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Old 02-01-2024, 05:06 PM
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TTail is from the MEC, just read his post, MEC do better he's not that bright.

No Goons Supporting the Spin, in Unity...
Nope. Try again.

I do think you are sitting at a desk in Koapaka though, trying to undermine the pilot group and hurt our chances at getting a good CBA though. Not sure if I'm more disgusted or impressed that our management team would waste time on this with everthing else that is going wrong right now
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Old 02-01-2024, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TTail
Nope. Try again.

I do think you are sitting at a desk in Koapaka though, trying to undermine the pilot group and hurt our chances at getting a good CBA though. Not sure if I'm more disgusted or impressed that our management team would waste time on this with everthing else that is going wrong right now
You sound a lot more like an MEC rep than he sounds like a manager. If you're really flying the line you're better off asking around in real life than coming on here begging for info. I have flown with every seniority range on the 330 and almost everyone is very dissapointed with ALPA. I think our managers have bigger things to worry about than trying to ruin our new combined contract.
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Old 02-01-2024, 07:08 PM
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I think our managers have bigger things to worry about than trying to ruin our new combined contract.
What do you think the contract HAL has with Ford and Harrison is for exactly?
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Old 02-01-2024, 08:22 PM
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What do you think the contract HAL has with Ford and Harrison is for exactly?
Millenium Falcon maintenance?
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Old 02-01-2024, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TTail
I have. In a previous life I handled grievances so that is certainly a point of conversation. Everybody's got some complaint, but none that I've heard from guys have been that major.

So I'll ask again... What issues are you hear guys gripe about.
I haven’t been taking notes, but some common ones include the implementation schedule, PPU removal, B scale 330F, section 22 especially when properly put toe to toe with other Majors’ appropriate section. There’s obviously more as individuals all have their personal gripes, but I’ve heard gripes over these several times in the last few months.

I get that this contract is in some ways better than what it was before, but to (wrongfully) assume the everyone’s as happy as you are does us a great disservice for future improvements. It’s not just 5 people or whatever you said earlier. Educate yourself, it’s not difficult to get a hold of other airline’s contracts.
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Old 02-02-2024, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by FyrePilot
The way this is going, HA might not even make it to the merger. Lost 100 million in 4th quarter. Total negative 260 million for the year 2023.

https://newsroom.hawaiianairlines.co...ancial-results
The best part will be the parachutes the CEO/COO get awarded from the shareholders. Who wants to start the over/under line?

Basically fumble every roll-out, never have a dedicated plan for the obvious runway issues HNL keeps having and will always have, vax mandates that basically did nothing but never acknowledge the misstep or offer a hint of a mea culpa, Japan stupidity... The reward...$millions. Seems reasonable I guess.
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Old 02-02-2024, 06:04 AM
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According to the C-suites, all is well and we are right on schedule.... Anyone who believes that should probably head back to freshman year at college and take a business 101 short course.

That was my first moment I know they were F%^ked! Ingram saying we're right on schedule (like we can't read Japan trends in the paper), and Schnook saying he doesn't know what drives the market and we don't worry about stock prices... WTF!?

Edit: This was in response to the previos page, being worried about our financial loses.
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Old 02-02-2024, 07:25 AM
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Think the group was also unhappy about forced vacation buyback as opposed to allowing a bank of two weeks or say to carry over for the next year.
Previous contract allowed you to save it for retirement or a lot of vacation if desired.
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