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Old 12-29-2023, 10:33 AM
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I'm genuinely nervous and scared for my career outlook
I really hope I don't lose my job (I have yet to experience any furlough/bankrupcy) .. ugh.
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Old 12-29-2023, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by PurringRaccoon
I'm genuinely nervous and scared for my career outlook
I really hope I don't lose my job (I have yet to experience any furlough/bankrupcy) .. ugh.
I feel your pain! Highly doubt any furloughs however we will be flying a 737 somewhere, top 10% will enjoy HNL flying if it remains. All Airbus aircraft will be gone, Amazon will be dumped, it is a low earner as stated by HA CEO, which leaves us to the current AS route and a few WB 787's.

We need to focus on a better contract with the new combined airline. The nightmare that replays in my mind is we have the same group working on our new merged contract.

No Furloughs and in Unity...
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Old 12-29-2023, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PurringRaccoon
I'm genuinely nervous and scared for my career outlook
I really hope I don't lose my job (I have yet to experience any furlough/bankrupcy) .. ugh.
After seeing this, I do feel for you. I hope it was still the right decision.

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/hawaiian/143176-turning-down-delta-hawaiian.html
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Old 12-29-2023, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by fostro
I feel your pain! Highly doubt any furloughs however we will be flying a 737 somewhere, top 10% will enjoy HNL flying if it remains. All Airbus aircraft will be gone, Amazon will be dumped, it is a low earner as stated by HA CEO, which leaves us to the current AS route and a few WB 787's.

We need to focus on a better contract with the new combined airline. The nightmare that replays in my mind is we have the same group working on our new merged contract.

No Furloughs and in Unity...
We can always count on you to spew the doom and gloom..
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Old 12-29-2023, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Gobows
After seeing this, I do feel for you. I hope it was still the right decision.

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/hawaiian/143176-turning-down-delta-hawaiian.html
I think I made the best decision for myself with what was known at the time. I was looking forward to spending the rest of my life in Hawaii.
Reading all these comments makes me very nervous that I will be displaced out of HNL. If that becomes the case, then I would have been better off at Delta.

But if I can still somehow live and fly from Hawaii - I would be happy with that. I wouldn't mind flying whatever airplane.
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Old 12-29-2023, 02:12 PM
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We can always count on you to spew the doom and gloom..
Sorry friend, I do not mean to ruin a Holiday Season but the rhetoric about nothing is changing needs to stop. Glad the senior line pilots are telling me what is happening and not painting a great postcard picture of Hawaii and its local airline remaining intact. Hoping for the best but my gut is telling me otherwise. Just for insurance, applications are all done, praying interviews will follow. Hopefully, it all works out in the end, history shows us we have the wrong MEC and negotiators leading us into this session.

Sorry for the Reality, In Unity...
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Old 12-29-2023, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by PurringRaccoon
I think I made the best decision for myself with what was known at the time. I was looking forward to spending the rest of my life in Hawaii.
Reading all these comments makes me very nervous that I will be displaced out of HNL. If that becomes the case, then I would have been better off at Delta.

But if I can still somehow live and fly from Hawaii - I would be happy with that. I wouldn't mind flying whatever airplane.
Hear you loud and clear my friend, I am a commuter so it's a bit different if I am not based in HI. AS is a great airline with a strong presence in Hawaii so I believe you made the right decision!

Right Decision, In Unity...
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Old 12-29-2023, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PurringRaccoon
I think I made the best decision for myself with what was known at the time. I was looking forward to spending the rest of my life in Hawaii.
Reading all these comments makes me very nervous that I will be displaced out of HNL. If that becomes the case, then I would have been better off at Delta.

But if I can still somehow live and fly from Hawaii - I would be happy with that. I wouldn't mind flying whatever airplane.
Well, for someone as junior as yourself I do admire your boundless optimism. Here’s to hoping they keep the HNL base 1000+
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Old 12-29-2023, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by fostro
Sorry friend, I do not mean to ruin a Holiday Season but the rhetoric about nothing is changing needs to stop. Glad the senior line pilots are telling me what is happening and not painting a great postcard picture of Hawaii and its local airline remaining intact. Hoping for the best but my gut is telling me otherwise. Just for insurance, applications are all done, praying interviews will follow. Hopefully, it all works out in the end, history shows us we have the wrong MEC and negotiators leading us into this session.

Sorry for the Reality, In Unity...
out of curiosity, how long have you been at Hawaiian? hope you get hired somewhere else as well.
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Old 12-29-2023, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by PurringRaccoon
I think I made the best decision for myself with what was known at the time. I was looking forward to spending the rest of my life in Hawaii.
Reading all these comments makes me very nervous that I will be displaced out of HNL. If that becomes the case, then I would have been better off at Delta.

But if I can still somehow live and fly from Hawaii - I would be happy with that. I wouldn't mind flying whatever airplane.
Everything with a merger takes a long time. It will be over 2 years before anything starts to happen, and then nothing happens quick from there. I'm sure that you will be fine out there.

EDIT: Just adding that a furlough or bankruptcy isn't something I would be concerned with if the merger goes through. Maybe if the merger isn't allowed, but that was Hawaiians same financial situation before the merger when you accepted the job. Just enjoy training, get settled out there in Hawaii and live your life.
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