Hawaii808

It would be hilarious if all of Alaskas Hawaii flying gets based out of HNL and branded as Hawaiian. That’s just as likely as whatever fostro is spouting off about. HNL to Japan flights aren’t going anywhere. Historically, they are very profitable. For the amount of interisland flying Hawaiian does there’s no chance we copy Southwest and their interisland tag leg model. Some people just like to stir the pot. Fostro must be one of those 1500 hour wonders from Skybest.

Akamai

HAL has never mentioned closing the WB base. Not once since they starting flying the DC10, L1011, 767, 330, and very soon the 787.

fostro

We will circle back in a few years when your in SEA, in the meantime get your ear muffs and snow jackets. It's good to be positive nothing at HA will change we will continue inter-island and 2-day, 3-day trips on the WB I'm sure that's the plan.


In Unity.....

Fakawat

No one knows what HNL looks like in a couple years. I kinda agree that we gonna see a lot of changes. For now things stay the same and AK will start watching the operation. I think no more wide body flying to the mainland once the 330 leases run out. Some international flying stays and some probably goes. We're losing a lot of money and Japan still hasn't recovered. I dobut AK keeps all our flights if they aren't making money. If I was betting I'd say mostly 737's in HNL within 5 years. Some 787's but not 24 widebodys. A lot of us won't hold the position we're in now in HNL. If we were making money I'd say they don't make big changes. But the only thing making money rn is west coast flying and maybe a few International routes. TBH the only thing about this deal that makes me excited is that we'll finally gonna have a management that knows what it's doing. They wanna make money and what we're doing rn isn't making money. All you guys acting like you know what's gonna happen after 1 week of reading press releases lol.

ImperialxRat

I think it's possible that under New Alaska a lot of the Hawaii flying will be in Hawaii branding, and we may see a reduction in Hawaii trips from the smaller bases and that flying moved to the HNL base... but there is no way that the Seattle good ol' boys club are giving up their Hawaii layovers. Realistically though, Alaska just keeps it spread out around the different bases, like it is now. Somehow it works on their pairing building philosophy, especially for those beautiful red eyes back to the west coast from the islands.

rickair7777

In this climate they're not going to force-transfer a bunch pilots from LAX or SFO, or even SEA, to HNL.

If they did the pilots would simply stay in their base, same or similar plane, but with a big-three paint job.

In the same vein, I don't think they want a big shakeup in HI either, with lost local jobs and the kind of hate and discontent they got from closing the VX NY base.

And I can't imagine it would be more economical than mainland to base NB pilots on the islands, other than for inter-island. Not that any of their mainland bases are low COL, but HNL is almost in it's own league in that regard.

Squeakygreaser

I think that's a good point, Alaska will probably try not to put too much hurt on the pilots at least for a while, I gotta imagine that headquarters in HNL is going to be pretty much gone though.

The thing is Alaska is going to make money, if there is a part of the Hawaiian flying that isn't making money it's going to be gone. I think it's more likely that you guys are going to be seeing transition classes in to the 737 rather than out of it for the most part.

I wonder if Alaska will keep the Amazon thing or try to get out of it. I imagine in an aquisition you could probably seek to renegotiate a deal like that, Amazon themselves might may even wantto get out of it.

Moonwolf

that’s cool you just made your profile right after the merger announcement and come here spouting of some lame duck shizznnit. You know jack all, you most definitely will not see me in Seattle.

in unity my 🖕🏽

word302

Except it's not like we have planes laying around to replace them with. We're not going to cut back other flying to replace the 717. It will be a strategic plan that makes sense financially and logistically. I don't see it happening for at least 5 years.

Hawaii808

considering Hawaiian owns most, if not all of the 717s, it’s probably gonna get phased out on a the same timeline that Hawaiian was going to anyways. Hawaiian has said 5 years for the last 5 years though. Makes the fleet decision easier as it’s probably gonna be 737s.