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#31
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Don’t kill the messenger.
https://www.travelweekly.com/Travel-News/Airline-News/Airbus-A320neo-engine-issue-more-extensive-than-first-reported
the original number in the first article read that nine aircraft would be down. That’s 50% of your current fleet according to Wiki. At present, you’re down 4/18.
I did add the qualifier “unless they find a solution” too. Refusing to return loaner engines is definitely a solution.
Finally, your CEO is going to tell everyone the company will be (or is) profitable until the day they declare bankruptcy. I’ve seen it and been in it.
Personally, literally a week before our CEO said “we haven’t discussed bankruptcy”, next week front page news.
Apparently from previous post, there is little love loss for your CEO and almost no trust, but that’s industry standard.
Sorry, I didn’t mean to step on toes, I just read article that seem to show major issues with A321 Neos around the world. And the problems continue for P&W.
https://www.travelweekly.com/Travel-News/Airline-News/Airbus-A320neo-engine-issue-more-extensive-than-first-reported
the original number in the first article read that nine aircraft would be down. That’s 50% of your current fleet according to Wiki. At present, you’re down 4/18.
I did add the qualifier “unless they find a solution” too. Refusing to return loaner engines is definitely a solution.
Finally, your CEO is going to tell everyone the company will be (or is) profitable until the day they declare bankruptcy. I’ve seen it and been in it.
Personally, literally a week before our CEO said “we haven’t discussed bankruptcy”, next week front page news.
Apparently from previous post, there is little love loss for your CEO and almost no trust, but that’s industry standard.
Sorry, I didn’t mean to step on toes, I just read article that seem to show major issues with A321 Neos around the world. And the problems continue for P&W.
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#32
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Don’t kill the messenger.
https://www.travelweekly.com/Travel-News/Airline-News/Airbus-A320neo-engine-issue-more-extensive-than-first-reported
the original number in the first article read that nine aircraft would be down. That’s 50% of your current fleet according to Wiki. At present, you’re down 4/18.
I did add the qualifier “unless they find a solution” too. Refusing to return loaner engines is definitely a solution.
Finally, your CEO is going to tell everyone the company will be (or is) profitable until the day they declare bankruptcy. I’ve seen it and been in it.
Personally, literally a week before our CEO said “we haven’t discussed bankruptcy”, next week front page news.
Apparently from previous post, there is little love loss for your CEO and almost no trust, but that’s industry standard.
Sorry, I didn’t mean to step on toes, I just read article that seem to show major issues with A321 Neos around the world. And the problems continue for P&W.
https://www.travelweekly.com/Travel-News/Airline-News/Airbus-A320neo-engine-issue-more-extensive-than-first-reported
the original number in the first article read that nine aircraft would be down. That’s 50% of your current fleet according to Wiki. At present, you’re down 4/18.
I did add the qualifier “unless they find a solution” too. Refusing to return loaner engines is definitely a solution.
Finally, your CEO is going to tell everyone the company will be (or is) profitable until the day they declare bankruptcy. I’ve seen it and been in it.
Personally, literally a week before our CEO said “we haven’t discussed bankruptcy”, next week front page news.
Apparently from previous post, there is little love loss for your CEO and almost no trust, but that’s industry standard.
Sorry, I didn’t mean to step on toes, I just read article that seem to show major issues with A321 Neos around the world. And the problems continue for P&W.
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SW buying AS is not utterly implausible, but SW has their hands full with other problems right now, and there would need to be a lot of divestiture on the west coast... SW+AS accounts for 80% or more of SAN traffic for example. AS+HA would be a lot easier to get past the trust-busters. They might not even put up a fight.
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I was talking about AS buying HA.
SW buying AS is not utterly implausible, but SW has their hands full with other problems right now, and there would need to be a lot of divestiture on the west coast... SW+AS accounts for 80% or more of SAN traffic for example. AS+HA would be a lot easier to get past the trust-busters. They might not even put up a fight.
SW buying AS is not utterly implausible, but SW has their hands full with other problems right now, and there would need to be a lot of divestiture on the west coast... SW+AS accounts for 80% or more of SAN traffic for example. AS+HA would be a lot easier to get past the trust-busters. They might not even put up a fight.
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I was talking about AS buying HA.
SW buying AS is not utterly implausible, but SW has their hands full with other problems right now, and there would need to be a lot of divestiture on the west coast... SW+AS accounts for 80% or more of SAN traffic for example. AS+HA would be a lot easier to get past the trust-busters. They might not even put up a fight.
SW buying AS is not utterly implausible, but SW has their hands full with other problems right now, and there would need to be a lot of divestiture on the west coast... SW+AS accounts for 80% or more of SAN traffic for example. AS+HA would be a lot easier to get past the trust-busters. They might not even put up a fight.
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Earnings come out in a few days, I know the company keeps assuring everyone that everything is fine, but when Delta reports record profits and United is doubling their fleet, it paints a sim picture for HA. I’m not saying all of this as a negative, I know it sucks. I just want your pilots to look at facts over hopes when making career decisions. I’ve been though it, I wish I paid more attention to Wall Street instead of my CEO…. That was AirTran days, but still.
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It seems the Neo Engine is as bad as the news predicted. I saw HA has been forced to cancel a slew of flights recently due to issues.
Earnings come out in a few days, I know the company keeps assuring everyone that everything is fine, but when Delta reports record profits and United is doubling their fleet, it paints a sim picture for HA. I’m not saying all of this as a negative, I know it sucks. I just want your pilots to look at facts over hopes when making career decisions. I’ve been though it, I wish I paid more attention to Wall Street instead of my CEO…. That was AirTran days, but still.
Earnings come out in a few days, I know the company keeps assuring everyone that everything is fine, but when Delta reports record profits and United is doubling their fleet, it paints a sim picture for HA. I’m not saying all of this as a negative, I know it sucks. I just want your pilots to look at facts over hopes when making career decisions. I’ve been though it, I wish I paid more attention to Wall Street instead of my CEO…. That was AirTran days, but still.
#39
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It seems the Neo Engine is as bad as the news predicted. I saw HA has been forced to cancel a slew of flights recently due to issues.
Earnings come out in a few days, I know the company keeps assuring everyone that everything is fine, but when Delta reports record profits and United is doubling their fleet, it paints a sim picture for HA. I’m not saying all of this as a negative, I know it sucks. I just want your pilots to look at facts over hopes when making career decisions. I’ve been though it, I wish I paid more attention to Wall Street instead of my CEO…. That was AirTran days, but still.
Earnings come out in a few days, I know the company keeps assuring everyone that everything is fine, but when Delta reports record profits and United is doubling their fleet, it paints a sim picture for HA. I’m not saying all of this as a negative, I know it sucks. I just want your pilots to look at facts over hopes when making career decisions. I’ve been though it, I wish I paid more attention to Wall Street instead of my CEO…. That was AirTran days, but still.
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No fake parts to date. Engines are an ongoing issue, but also the benefit of the airline’s audacity to suffer the complexity of operating different a/c. Spirit and Frontier are not profitable BTW. Hopefully you left AirTran in time to dodge the staple. No crystal balls for us at HAL, but driving to work says it’s worth the risk.
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