Hawaiian Hiring FOs
09-25-2024, 02:02 PM
#671
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Joined APC: Aug 2022
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That's a little insesitive to locals living in Molokai especially. There are so many kupuna and wheel chair bound citizens pregnacies, etc; there is a moral and civil duty to service that island, yes EAS should step in and award this to HA not Mokulele.
The concern of the ATR not making money, well it would be a wash if the prevoius management made money, then that would have been part of the bottom line the lack of profit from those island destinations. Like SW airlines works, our prevoius management spread propoganda that SWA didnt make money here in the islands and was never full. Do you think SWA cares, no, they have their entire domestic network to compensdate, just as they have always done to attack competitors and drop prices, they gave headged fuel in the past and were able to operate at a loss on some routes to crush others.
Our two big excuses from management were 'boo hoo hoo', Japan hasn't returned and SWA.
I dont know the entireity obvioulsy but with Alaska's profit and a committment to service all of Hawaii, something could be done to operate into MKK and LNY, plus scope won't be violated if Horizon does it.
All they need, especially MKK is reliable service a couple times a day.
The concern of the ATR not making money, well it would be a wash if the prevoius management made money, then that would have been part of the bottom line the lack of profit from those island destinations. Like SW airlines works, our prevoius management spread propoganda that SWA didnt make money here in the islands and was never full. Do you think SWA cares, no, they have their entire domestic network to compensdate, just as they have always done to attack competitors and drop prices, they gave headged fuel in the past and were able to operate at a loss on some routes to crush others.
Our two big excuses from management were 'boo hoo hoo', Japan hasn't returned and SWA.
I dont know the entireity obvioulsy but with Alaska's profit and a committment to service all of Hawaii, something could be done to operate into MKK and LNY, plus scope won't be violated if Horizon does it.
All they need, especially MKK is reliable service a couple times a day.
If I remember correctly, the States Covid policies triggered our contract language. Add in the financial losses suffered by the super awesome shutdown and it sure seemed HA was not too dissappointed in ending the Empre contract. Now, the State and islands of MKK and LNY, which certainly enjoyed the lockdowns, reap the benefits, or lackthereof. Yet another example of the ends not justifying the means.
09-27-2024, 09:09 AM
#676
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Joined APC: Sep 2021
Posts: 28
The Hawaiian way would have been to let it expire, tell you that you have to reapply and interview, then panic when they realize they ran out of candidates in the pool, extend your CJO and bring you in. We're under new management now though, so not sure how they will treat it. Hoping they keep all you guys in the pool.
09-28-2024, 07:43 AM
#677
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
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The Hawaiian way would have been to let it expire, tell you that you have to reapply and interview, then panic when they realize they ran out of candidates in the pool, extend your CJO and bring you in. We're under new management now though, so not sure how they will treat it. Hoping they keep all you guys in the pool.
They brought hiring under the AS roof pretty quickly in the last merger.
10-08-2024, 02:34 PM
#679
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Joined APC: Sep 2024
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That sounds positive. However it does beg a few follow on questions. Will they be starting classes in 2025 for those of us in the pool? If so, what about those with expiring/expired CJOs? Or are they scrapping the whole pool, starting over, and opening a new hiring window?
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