DenainaPilot

I think the 7s are a pipe dream, the 8s have proven they can go everywhere the 700s used to, and they are far more flexible. In my opinion 7s make sense if you’re going to cattle car them a la Southwest and Ryan. Who knows though, I’d be pleasantly surprised and not unhappy to see the here.

rickair7777

Assuming equal production availability, it will come down to economics, which is variable depending on the mission. Lots of number crunching needed, far more than we could do on web forums.

In some cases it can make sense to operate a larger airframe below full capacity, even though it costs more up front and burns more gas, just to have the ASM's during lucrative peak travel periods. Again, lots of numbers to crunch.

yeahidk

If the ATR42 wasn't profitable, the Ejet definitely won't be. We have no reason resume service to either of those islands without some kind of government subsidy.

DenainaPilot

Yes, everything we are doing here is just a WAG. I’m just basing my opinion on what I’ve seen in the Arctic, which I think is similar to inter-island. Time will tell of course.

Disappointment

Yeah but that was the same management that cant make money with 321s/330s/787s either

Rama

MKK and LNY are small airports with not a lot of travelers.
Hawaiian flew a DC-9 into MKK twice a day if I remember correctly. 4500" runway with rising terrrain. Could not do it when S-SW winds were there.
HA looked at doing it with the 717, but modern SMS procedures did not allow it.
Really a small island and airport with not a huge demand. Used to be serviced small aircraft and Island Air Dash-8s.

Hawaii808

unless Alaska feels like getting some caravans and Pilatus aircraft there is zero chance of making a profit in those communities. The population numbers do not support Jet service or anything bigger than a 19 seat turboprop a few times a day.

Poopchute701

SeaGliders!

clearandcold

Neosporin

That's a little insesitive to locals living in Molokai especially. There are so many kupuna and wheel chair bound citizens pregnacies, etc; there is a moral and civil duty to service that island, yes EAS should step in and award this to HA not Mokulele.
The concern of the ATR not making money, well it would be a wash if the prevoius management made money, then that would have been part of the bottom line the lack of profit from those island destinations. Like SW airlines works, our prevoius management spread propoganda that SWA didnt make money here in the islands and was never full. Do you think SWA cares, no, they have their entire domestic network to compensdate, just as they have always done to attack competitors and drop prices, they gave headged fuel in the past and were able to operate at a loss on some routes to crush others.
Our two big excuses from management were 'boo hoo hoo', Japan hasn't returned and SWA.

I dont know the entireity obvioulsy but with Alaska's profit and a committment to service all of Hawaii, something could be done to operate into MKK and LNY, plus scope won't be violated if Horizon does it.
All they need, especially MKK is reliable service a couple times a day.